NOTHING needs a buff right now...

slippykitten·8/22/2018, 6:58:28 PM·63 votes·14,951 views

With the state of damage and balance as it is right now, there is literally no champion or item that needs damage (directly, or indirectly) to be buffed. I just cannot fathom how Riot thinks adding the ability to do more damage to champions who face smash their keyboard to do overloaded damage already is a good idea.

In case this concept has never occurred to you, riot, start NERFING the overloaded and overbearing champions, carefully, respectfully, systematically, until the game starts to get back into a reasonable state.

With how horrendous this season is in terms of damage, the community is going to be upset at practically ANY buffs you try to make at this point.

37 Comments

Lunar ArcS8/23/2018, 5:53:37 AM9 votes

I'm convinced riot is run by fucking idiots at this point.

DuskDaUmbreon8/22/2018, 7:00:29 PM9 votes

Has it not occurred to you that buffing defense has the same net effect as nerfing damage? They effectively mean the exact same thing.

Also, yes, there are champions that need buffs at the time. Some champion is too weak, clearing poorly, or whatever. There are reasons to buff, even if you and ~500 other people think damage is too high.

D357R0Y3R8/22/2018, 7:32:38 PM5 votes

They're not buffing damage

check surrenderat20, they're buffing assassins for pro play by buffing their ganking power

not their damage

AirKingNeo8/23/2018, 4:05:27 AM4 votes

I know a lot of champions who could use a buff. Ashe.

deadlychuck8/22/2018, 10:25:55 PM4 votes

The problem is that riot seems to have hit a peek. Where if they try to buff the highly mechanical champions to bring them above the more numerical champions, then they end up increasing in power dramatically. Where as if they simply numerically nerf all champions, then the mechanical champions don't really get hit that hard.

Yet in order to properly nerf the mechanical champions would generally require extensive expense on account of mechanical nerfs/buffs tend to be extremely expensive relative to numerical buffs, and they rely on the development team not the balance team. [sg-lulu]

This could've been a lot less of a problem if they'd just given assassins their own stat at their introduction, rather than try to make all of the mechanical champions scale with the same primary stats as the less mechanical ones. *le sigh* but 20/20 hindsight

Swimmx8/23/2018, 5:03:22 AM3 votes

There are Plenty of Champions who need Buffed. Like Singed.. Who was repeatedly nerfed directly and indirectly for 3-4 straight patches.

Ahris8/23/2018, 3:50:46 AM2 votes

Ahri needs damage buff after domination tree nerf.

Her winrate is high, they can nerf her passive and her charm duration and mana cost.

inFamous Zion8/23/2018, 8:29:31 AM1 votes

Just came back from a game where Rengar Electrocute Ignite stomped me top, the guy because of lower cd on Elec, could deal such an insane damage. I know how to play the machup and play it safely but i didn't not expect that damage at all. it was an unfair game tbh, but here we are with Rengar buff cause Riot is disabled.

Śhunpo8/23/2018, 10:02:27 AM1 votes

Katarina needs some QoL changes done to Shunpo, but that's about it.

Elixors8/23/2018, 5:23:58 PM1 votes

Zoe item 3070

Im My Own Waifu8/23/2018, 7:25:28 PM1 votes

I disagree, some champions are actually in horrible spots right now. I play almost exclusively Sona on this smurf. She is a godawful champion right now.

First they didn’t compensate her at all for the loss of armor and MR runes she took, and she’s still one of the squishiest champs in the game.

In preseason she used klepto effectively, so she got GUTTED by riot, one of the worst series of nerfs I’ve ever seen. They went way too far and many people realized that. Eventually they slightly reverted only the cost increase of her Q. She was still playble because of the runes.

Then they nerfed all her runes.

Then they did it again in the last couple patches but she didn’t even show up as a champion who could use compensation for the loss of power even though she was struggling hard already. Until she gets shoes and 2 complete items she’s about as useful as a caster minion, and on a support salary in the current short as hell games, that doesn’t always happen. She actually feels absolutely horrible to play and needs something to help her out after getting directly and indirectly nerfed all season in a meta that already shits on her.

There are other champions in similar situations, I just wanted to name and explain Sona specifically. There’s a lot of OP crap in the game right now, but there’s definitely sections of “forgotten champions” that aren’t even considered for compensation when things they were using to barely hold on get nerfed, which hurts them even more.

LordGeovanni8/23/2018, 8:57:05 PM1 votes

This please this Jhin needs a nerf because idk how he scales with attack speed for damage and movement speed while getting redicilous amounts of attack speed per level when he is supposed to be gated by his advertised at the time 'FIXED attack speed' but it still scales. Idk why they didnt make jhin need to go a full ad build which would have actually been unique from any other adc. also idk why he is supposedly immobile but has enough movement speed when he crits to out run some dashes for the same amount of time lucain dash Sejuani dash Not to mention galio dash (idk how this is even considered mobility but people will adamantly insist people with ridiculous movement speed have no mobility)

FilDaFunk8/23/2018, 10:54:09 PM1 votes

TOWERS

SuperNova00798/24/2018, 1:29:54 AM1 votes

I can actually think of a few things that need a damage buff right now. Zyra being one of them. Her abilities have grossly low scaling and I cannot get any kills with her because her plants die to fast. I spend like a minute building a group of seeds than people just avoid it then I have to move closer and repeat the process. When I move closer I just die. Fighting against Zyra is TOO EZ. I feel really bad for the person I just killed playing Zyra , doing everything they can to make Zyra work but she just doesn't do enough damage. nor have enough survival tools. Not because her plants need a damage buff, but because they don't live long enough to make a real impact because they die instantly now. Bring back the ability to increase plant health passively or just make them take more hits to kill as the game goes on because people attack faster late game so Zyra really needs a way to toughen up her plants besides ult (which is the worst ult ever, next to swain's ult) to compensate for that weakness. Seriously though Zyra 's ult is just a plant buff that doesn't always work because it takes a sec for the buff to take effect. Sometimes all of my plants die from enemy AoE because they didn't get the buff fast enough and die. So then my ult is now wasted and must wait a fraking long time for a weak ult to use it again. I am mostly talking about mid lane Zyra here.

MAKE Zyra PLANTS SCARY AGAIN!!!

NiGhT5SiGhT8/22/2018, 7:02:43 PM1 votes

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Hi lm Zoe8/22/2018, 8:18:13 PM1 votes

Kayn please, buff Kayn

Nea1048/23/2018, 1:10:24 AM1 votes

It's August, patch #16. I really don't think they are gonna improve anything anytime soon.

YuGiHo8/23/2018, 4:34:59 AM1 votes

not even this sweet boy? Ivern

ThunderSkelett8/23/2018, 5:23:16 AM1 votes

Nerfing a Champion is a indirect buff for another one you know do you?

Xeronic8/23/2018, 7:37:31 AM1 votes

Viktor

[sg-janna]

But anyways, what i think is that focusing more on buffing than nerfing makes the game more fun. Nerfing everything strong to the ground will just make the game plain and makes things feel less rewarding.