He has so much unnecessary counterplay that he just sucks. I recently played a thresh game where rengar would try to jump on my draven constantly. Of the three times he tried to jump on draven, i hit three blind hooks due to being able to understand what direction he is coming from based on when the exclamation marks appear. Three/Three blind hooks. You know, a part of me was hoping I'd miss. I hoped Rengar wasn't so shit and predictable. I was wrong.
Korthalia8 votesHave you ever seen what competent Rengars do to the game? A single korean assassin-build Rengar will make you question all you said here.
Joe Dredd1 votesAt my elo? No. If they're challenger Korean? Yes, of course. In that situation Rengar's bullshit is completely overshadowed by skill.
vIbvdOwbko5 votesI don't really know... After reading your thread, I'm going to assume your game environment is one where players don't even know how to play game. Rengar is a good champion.
Messaiga4 votesProblem with Rengar is that when he's strong (for the majority of the player-base) he's complete bullshit. This comes from burst + stealth. Either he dives in, one-shots the carry and proceeds with fighting and getting away or he dives in and dies without contributing much to his team. If Rengar is to be a strong assassin they should remove the stealth.
edit: As a guideline, this is probably what the Rengar rework back in patch 4.5 (Season 4) should have entailed:
Basically all the Rengar rework did was introduce some mechanics as counters to his bullshit (the ! on his Ultimate and his E being a skillshot) and make the Bonetooth necklace available throughout the game (and as bonuses or enhancements to skills instead of stat-stick) which slightly reduced his feast/famine gameplay.
OhOkYea2 votesBushes are too inconveniently placed and easy to stay away from, even if you don't get close enough to see the exclamation mark. Stealth mechanics basically make him a walking ward for the enemy team. Stealth based gameplay is pointless as is. But you can jump out at a minion and kind of surprise the enemy, hopefully leading to them making a mistake for your team mate to take advantage of.
It's tempting to think that someone would purposefully get too close to a bush he is in just to get him to pop out and give them a free kill.
BluePolarizer2 votesAs long as you survive Rengar's burst, he's actually incredibly easy to kite and peel.
N3mO061 votesAs long as you survive Rengar's burst, he's actually incredibly easy to kite and peel.
Just zhonya, ga and don't be alone. If rengar jumps, you win the game. So many times using rengar's r was counterproductive: I saw people flashing, dashing, healing( shielding) away when I just press my r.....was fun but the for 150,120, 70( the last is ok) sec I was able to do a very little and beeing kited more easly then Udyr. Your bolas has a cast time( no cast time during jump), the bullet is very slow and he has no other ability to chase not like Nidalee. He should be a hunter?!?! In the end play rengar is nothing more then wait for the cd of your ult
N3mO061 votesI know, every actions of rengar are clear (5 stack?!? He will engage, esclametion mark?!? He is ulting, coming into a bush?!? He is jumping?!?!? Away from bushes and gg) but it is the only way to mantein his damage/ ult even if a rework ( like nidalee in hunting mechanics) should be more logic then change just the bolas and the ult, the latter useless many times without 5 stacks and boots. I must say though that rengar was not very awake, could also position itself better and use the final to get from an angle less predictable. Anyway a good counterplay is always approved, he need just more tools to be able to have a second possibility beeing so predictable. I have always wanted the opportunity to use rengar's passive out of the bushes with enpowered q/e, but apparently it would be wrong
MarkedOfKane1 votesI played with a Rengar the other day. Jumps in and kills a target faster than I could exhaust.
Joe Dredd1 votesSeems like you're too slow.
