Like get the fuck over yourself dude you can lose a god damn game when it's fucking 9-30 at 18 minutes and theyve taken all outer turrets and mid inhib while we've taken 2 fucking towers jesus fucking christ i'd rather have an intent feeder than a team that wont fucking ff
warpenguin55514 voteslol. because teams at all elos can and will throw. Or because maybe you rape them late. or maybe because the enemy had somebody go afk. also you can learn how to play from behind instead of spamming gg noob team wont ff
Enosetc5 voteslol. because teams at all elos can and will throw. Or because maybe you rape them late. or maybe because the enemy had somebody go afk. also you can learn how to play from behind instead of spamming gg noob team wont ff
the higher your elo is, the less likely that it'll happen
it's not something that should be counted on when the kills are 4-36 and your map is as dark as 4chan's sense of humor
Joe Dredd3 votesThere's only so much you can throw when any of the enemy team except the support can 1v3 any of our team.
TacoTheKitten8 votesYeah but if they only have taken 4 towers and are up 3 kills, why the fuck would you surrender with a team full of late game champs such as vayne, nasus, yi. Learn the fucking play style of your team, and realize that being down early doesn't mean you've already lost. Also, for the record, a while ago i won a 4v5 when we were down about 13-38 or something ridiculous. We just focused on objectives, and eventually got an amazing team fight off. Some people surrender way too easily, and it's honestly really annoying. It's just a game, play it out. If C9 had just quit in those series when they were down 0/2, they wouldn't have come back. There's always a way. Of course if your team is just a toxic clusterfuck of assholes and it's really just not a fun game, then yeah, I would agree to surrender.
Joe Dredd2 votesare you bronze?
A Liberal4 votes[{quoted}](name=Skippa Da Flippa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eG9e9J0M,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2015-10-05T21:57:42.794+0000)
are you bronze?
10/10 good argumentation
BetaDude403 votes[{quoted}](name=Skippa Da Flippa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eG9e9J0M,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2015-10-05T21:57:42.794+0000)
are you bronze?
I'm surprised people even say this anymore. When will people learn it doesn't help your argument in any way to belittle someone else for no reason?
Joe Dredd1 votesBecause only trash players can't close games.
BetaDude402 votesThis entire thread is 2trolly4me.
Have fun fishing in those downvotes, buddy :)
Blade of Justic3 votesWhile your post was worded.... colorfully, I'd have to agree.
It's infuriating for 3 members of your team to be held hostage because bot lane is feeling stand-off-ish.
Kazaashi3 votesI dunno, prolly to punish you or because they think they can come back and want to try. Honestly, it's better to not surrender and hope for a lucky DC/AFK, or a derp moment on the other team to try to get back into it, or possibly just wait for the late game and try to win once the advantage is gone.
On the scale of toxicity, I think it's pretty low compared to:
People who die after another lane dies twice.
people who die 4 times in lane and then give up.
people who AFK if they don't get first blood.
people who troll if they don't get their lane.
QuantumLight3 votesfrom the point of view of someone who wont surrender (not me)
1 of 6 reasons
I Believe there is a chance we can win if (x) happens.
Someone else on my team doesnt want to ff so ill humor them
I Dont have time to play another game, but i still have 5-10 min id rather use playing it out then standing around
Someone on my team is a **** and since their trying to ff i refuse.
We may have thrown, but they could to
THIS IS NA AND WE NEVER SURRENDER
A Liberal3 votesI only surrender when I stop having fun. If my team is horribly losing and there is no help of coming back, ill still keep playing because I have fun making mistakes and learning from them.
Now when my team is just flaming to hell, the enemy is just dancing at my fountain and bming in chat to the point where it becomes tedious, or when we are all just being deleted the moment we walk out of base, than I will surrender, but as long as I am enjoying the game and can still do things, you wont catch me agreeing to surrender votes.
Joe Dredd1 votesK so i know to intentionally force my team to stop having fun to force ff thnx
Only Play Darius3 votesThere are games where we are losing and have a chance.
Then there are games where our enemies are 20 kills ahead and are spamming dance at all 3 of our inhibitors intentionally stalling the game out and we have yet to take a single turret.
The people who vote no in the latter situations are worse than rage quitters.
Pentarina Only3 votesIt pisses me off when peope don't ff. "Oh yes guys we've only lost 12 turrets, 1 inhib, and are only 15 kills behind! We can totally win!"
Bulletproof Car3 votes[{quoted}](name=Skippa Da Flippa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eG9e9J0M,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-10-05T20:17:51.987+0000)
Like get the fuck over yourself dude you can lose a god damn game when it's fucking 9-30 at 18 minutes and theyve taken all outer turrets and mid inhib while we've taken 2 fucking towers jesus fucking christ i'd rather have an intent feeder than a team that wont fucking ff
lets see how much we can make this guy tilt mentality
Enosetc2 votesbecause of the NA "never surrender!" mentality
Deep Terror Nami2 votes1 good teamfight can easily even out the game (or even completely throw it). While I wouldn't say "never surrender no matter what", I think people do so more often than they need to. Also, if they enemy is just about to win, I don't usually take away their chance to finish by forfeiting. I'm not trying to cut time off as many games as I can to play more either; it's a shitty idea because you'd have to forfeit a lot of games just to get 1 extra game in the day.
MacDeath2 votes[{quoted}](name=Mr MacDeath,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5kH4oRF6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-10-05T13:23:03.499+0000)
Dude everybody is free to play as long as he tries to win without breaking universal rules of the game :/ If you can't end a game you may think twice before you start one :|
brad2 votesdear diary
DeynaTaggerung2 votesIt's almost never worth it to surrender. Especially at low elo because not only are the odds of the enemy team making a move that could potentially throw the game 95% (I shit you not, people just generally don't capitalize on them) but learning to play from behind is a good skill and being able to think "what can I do and what can't I do". Playing around their most fed player and try for a comeback. The only times I surrender is when my team is arguing amongst themselves and it's obvious they've all totally given up in their heads.
Bobuga2 votes[{quoted}](name=Skippa Da Flippa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eG9e9J0M,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-10-05T20:17:51.987+0000)
Like get the fuck over yourself dude you can lose a god damn game when it's fucking 9-30 at 18 minutes and theyve taken all outer turrets and mid inhib while we've taken 2 fucking towers jesus fucking christ i'd rather have an intent feeder than a team that wont fucking ff
you are not in plat or higher obviously. Just play it out. People throw games all the time. not 100% sure but I'm pretty confident you loose more MMR if you surrender anyways.
Joe Dredd1 votesIm diamond you fuck
deJasper362 votesYou should never surender. I have had multiple times where 3 people wanted to surrender but won the game eventually.
Meruvin1 votesmaybe the player who is not surrendering is 9/0/0 and you're 0/30/0
Sozan51 votesBecause winning a game like this feels so much better. That's why you don't FF.
Hayaishi21 votesPeople throw very hard in soloq and often. try to not FF at 20, wait till 30, chances are enemy team will throw unless you got destroyed that is.
EffectFX1 votesIf it's ranked, I don't surrender. I've won plenty of games that should have been lost.
Joe Dredd3 votesAnd how many games have you lost that you should have lost. Now compare the two, and are you really willing to waste that much fking time for a marginal chance to win?
A Liberal2 votes[{quoted}](name=Skippa Da Flippa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eG9e9J0M,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2015-10-05T21:56:17.545+0000)
And how many games have you lost that you should have lost. Now compare the two, and are you really willing to waste that much fking time for a marginal chance to win?
Its a game not a production schedule. Wasting an extra ten minutes isn't losing you money, and there really should be no comparisons because at the end of the day wins and losses are just pixels, the only thing that matters is if you enjoyed yourself. Just relax and try to have fun.
Joe Dredd1 votesYea, it's a game. Getting shitted on is not fun, and why would I play a game where I'm not having fun?
Eastrid1 votesI hate when you lose mid and as JG you try to help but it's 2 vs 4 in mid and you ask for help and no one talks. Then I try to back door while everyone is dying in the jungle for no reason. Then once the inhib is gone then they want to team up and is to late and we will be down by 20 something kills with a Riven and Vayne fed. Then in times like that I want to FF and every time the vote fails I know they are trolling. There are times where you should ff I've been in games where it's lasted an hour just because the other team was just farming kills and refused to end the game.
I do dislike people that want FF in ARAM it's meant for fun and chaos. People take that game type to serious at times.
Joe Dredd1 votesI mean, if you roll terrible aram champs and the enemy has the god squad i wouldnt want to play either
DrCyanide1 votes[{quoted}](name=Skippa Da Flippa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eG9e9J0M,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-10-05T20:17:51.987+0000)
you can lose a god damn game when it's fucking 9-30 at 18 minutes
Well, it's because you can't surrender for another 2 minutes, duh :)
MalzaharAnyLane1 votes3-2 yes in favor of surrender votes are never, ever fun, even if the game eventually is turned around and a comeback is made.
Conversely I just had a game where the carry and jg just intentionally threw the game and top built damage on Gnar instead of tank, while carry was suicide splitpushing and jg Akali kept trying to 1v1 the tank.
I had already built Triforce to win at 20 but that meant other than Blitz picks and my mana I wasn't getting enough money to change strategies.
Fictatious1 votesYou're the kind of person who prevents comebacks at all lol. I've come back from a 7-34 game because guess what? it's soloqueue, teams throw and a lot of the time have trouble closing out games. giving up so soon should only happen if the whole team is just a toxic mess who refuse to work together.
CleverExpletive1 votes[{quoted}](name=PF Fictatious,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eG9e9J0M,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2015-10-06T00:40:15.294+0000)
giving up so soon should only happen if the whole team is just a toxic mess who refuse to work together.
Sadly that's about 90% of solo q.
Joe Dredd1 votesI've come back from a 7-34 game because guess what?
How many times have you won in this situation? How many times have you lost? Compare the two and if you really would spend hours for that marginal amount of LP in the long run then you are pretty bad for how tryhard you are
CleverExpletive1 votesI get OP's point. I mean, he's salty as hell but I get it. It's a daily test of mental fortitude, and if your team is the slightest bit cohesive you can come back and stomp.
But all the examples above of people coming back from ridiculous defecits are not the norm, lets face it.
The way I always view it: if we are obviously losing, and I mean getting completely shit-stomped at 20 minutes I'll usually say yes. If it's past that point and I see a glimmer then I'll try to fight it out.
But a loss is a loss, and people need to swallow their internet pride and realize that sometimes.
Here's a cookie OP. 
ShaftyMegee1 votesUm, there is no reason to get angry about it. Just play, and try to have fun... that is the point of this game right?
Woodsy25751 votesQuitting is for pansies
Lugg1 votesBecause teams throw games ALL THE TIME. If you are playing ranked and keep bringing up surrender votes, you're probably getting reported. If it's normals, just play out the game and work on your mechanics, farming, or something. Have fun, that's the main thing.
