Does anyone remember the panic from Viktor mains after last nerfs to him?

Lugg··16 votes·1,902 views

The forum was flooded with "Viktor will be unplayable" threads. He still got the nerfs and guess what! He's still one of the top mids in the game. He is the 2nd most played mid right now with an almost 51% win rate at all levels and almost 55% win rate for mains.

The point is that champions mains will ALWAYS complain unless their champ OMFG OP freelo.

38 Comments

Junkο11 votes

I'm pretty sure everyone complained about the huge E delay that never made it live.

AMYS GRAVE5 votes

That and that they were removing power from his laser to make his q more powerful. A vanilla auto attack modifier is hardly as interesting of an ability.

Miraweave3 votes

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That and that they were removing power from his laser to make his q more powerful. A vanilla auto attack modifier is hardly as interesting of an ability.

His E is his most interesting and unique ability, and they took power out of it to put it in a fairly boring targeted nuke.

Malicious Metal4 votes

I wouldn't consider myself a Viktor main but the threads I made argued about the stupid delays making him clunky and NOT about power level. Thankfully they fixed the issue.

Lugg2 votes

I didn't think it made him clunky, it just made you land the stun for a power combo on champs. It has always been great for waveclear, he's one of the top 5 in the game in that category.

Lady Hammerlock4 votes

I was the only person who actually supported and enjoyed the Viktor changes,i told people the E delay was fine

and look at him now,I wasn't wrong

blfUvZ8Ybu3 votes

''He's still one of the top mids in the game. He is the 2nd most played mid right now''

Yes Viktor is strong but I disagree.Vlad, Malz, Karma, Lb, Cass, TF.

This champions are stronger than Viktor.

Lugg2 votes

Azir is stronger due to the utility in his ult. Vlad is pick/ban because he's a flex pick. Vik is usually better than the rest if you are good with him since he fits multiple team comps.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Azir is stronger due to the utility in his ult. Vlad is pick/ban because he's a flex pick. Vik is usually better than the rest if you are good with him since he fits multiple team comps.

Hahahaha.You don't know balance and champions power.

Lugg1 votes

Name a single thing in that paragraph that is wrong. That's right, you can't.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Name a single thing in that paragraph that is wrong. That's right, you can't.

You're still talking.

Lugg1 votes

You're still not answering. I win.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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You're still not answering. I win.

You're still writing.Get rekt.

Lugg1 votes

I actually like Viktor. I'm just open minded enough to see he is a bit too strong right now.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I actually like Viktor. I'm just open minded enough to see he is a bit too strong right now.

No.He isn't strong after last nerf.Watch LCS.

https://www.twitch.tv/eulcs1 https://www.twitch.tv/eulcs2

Where is Viktor?

Lugg1 votes

He has the highest pick rate of any mid this split. I guess all the pro mids are just stupid and pick him over every other mid just for shits and giggles.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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He has the highest pick rate of any mid this split. I guess all the pro mids are just stupid and pick him over every other mid just for shits and giggles.

You saw.Kass, Vlad, Cass, Malz are strong champions than Viktor. (especially after last nerf)

CppL2 votes

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''He's still one of the top mids in the game. He is the 2nd most played mid right now''

Yes Viktor is strong but I disagree.Vlad, Malz, Karma, Lb, Cass, TF.

This champions are stronger than Viktor.

Stop using drugs ,kid.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Stop using drugs ,kid.

Learn the meta salty Azir hater.

Stop using alcohol.

Michael Bacon3 votes

For the most part, when the Viktor changes were revealed, his E had lower base damages whilst still having a delay higher than current.

Miraweave3 votes

I didn't complain about anything other than the E change, which just felt really clunky to use. It still does, and I wish they'd just revert the damage buff and the delay nerf.

Lugg2 votes

I think the delay makes him a much more "fair" champ to play against. It makes him more of a combo mage since you need to use gravity field effectively to get the delayed damage.

MistroTTC2 votes

To be fair, the e delay was lowered from 1.25 seconds to 1 second after those complaints.

Lugg3 votes

Yes it was, but people were still going crazy about it.

ForgiveColour2 votes

"Riot gutted his ult" "Riot gutted his waveclear"

Fucking viktor mains man

Athenes Lulu2 votes

I mean, someone's gotta find something to complain about. Then there wouldn't be a point on to be on the forums.

Lugg2 votes

I can't argue with you there.

The Anagram King2 votes

PBE Viktor was boasting awful delays and seeing nerfs on half his kit, for an increase in ult damage.

Yes. It would've ruined him. Who the hell knows why they went full 180 and ended up buffing all his numbers, instead.

Vistha Kai2 votes

Yeah, you conveniently left out the fact, the huge delay that EVERYBODY complained about, never went live.

In fact Riot even buffed his Death Ray's travel speed for no reason.

DeltaRaven1 votes

Are you referring to the changes before the mage update or the mage update change itself?

Lugg1 votes

Both

Erockandroll1 votes

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The forum was flooded with "Viktor will be unplayable" threads. He still got the nerfs and guess what! He's still one of the top mids in the game. He is the 2nd most played mid right now with an almost 51% win rate at all levels and almost 55% win rate for mains.

The point is that champions mains will ALWAYS complain unless their champ OMFG OP freelo.

I don't think people can right away, theory craft what those changes do to a champ, and how can you work around them.

Looking at the LCS, The biggest change I find is in his ult. They changed his ult so that it did more damage over time instead of in a quick burst. Though it ultimately increased the total potential damage. The pro scene was quick to adapt to those changes. They would rush the perfect hex core, to get the increased speed on his ult. Combined that with Crystal scepter, and it became extremely difficult to escape his ult before he would completely melt you.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

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The forum was flooded with "Viktor will be unplayable" threads. He still got the nerfs and guess what! He's still one of the top mids in the game. He is the 2nd most played mid right now with an almost 51% win rate at all levels and almost 55% win rate for mains.

The point is that champions mains will ALWAYS complain unless their champ OMFG OP freelo.

implying op freelo will stop the complaints from fans

Miraweave1 votes

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implying op freelo will stop the complaints from fans

Sona mains in a nutshell

SpookyNeedle1 votes

I didn't complain when Fiora was nerfed, I never used the titanic build anyways. Ravenous is always the answer

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

He already got nerf.

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