@meddler: about those garen buffs on the pbe

Critmaster Garen··4 votes·1,647 views

its nice to see that youre giving him some attention. absolutely no complaints about the w buff. if youre buffing any numbers in his kit, then his outplay tool is a good idea.

but for the q buff, could you please try increasing the animation speed with champion level, instead of the flat damage value?

id personally rather have his q be much more snappy and better of an animation cancel by mid to lategame, than 40 extra damage at rank 5. (even though thats a lot)

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Step Sis Lux1 votes

His w buffs are just like ... idk what to say its almost like olaf R right now xD

Critmaster Garen4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Step Sis Lux,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tvkac3Hm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-24T20:34:02.160+0000)

His w buffs are just like ... idk what to say its almost like olaf R right now xD

the reason why i like the idea of buffing his w is, that its really a large hook for skill expression in garens kit.

using the w at the right time against the correct ability rewards you more for correctly using one of your very few outplay tools. so people who are good, and practised at the champion are probably going to get more out of it than your average bronze player who just presses the button without really thinking about how he uses the ability to its greatest effect.

the reason why i want to see a buff to his q animation speed is mostly, because i had actually allies die because i couldnt interrupt enemy abilities fast enough.

also, you have crap like enemies shielding, and using mobility tools during the q animation, because it gives them so much extra time to cram an extra spell in.

even flash + q plays to interrupt important enemy abilities become obscenely hard to pull off at times because of the slow animation.

like imagine you get on top of a Xayah or a Tristana because they messed up, and they cram their ults into the time your q animation takes to play.

the slow animation is acceptable during the lane phase, where garens opponents are locked in a situation where they have to deal with him on their own. but during skirmishes and teamfights around midgame, the long q animation is way too punishing on garen.

having the animation speed scale up with champion level solves that problem and is thematically consistent with his spin getting faster as he levels up aswell.

5050BS1 votes

85% damage reduction........

Vid the Strange5 votes

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85% damage reduction........

For the first 0.75 seconds.

Note that Fiora's Riposte is total immunity to CC and non-turret damage for the same duration. The fact that she can't move during Riposte is rather moot since you generally can't move very far in 0.75 seconds anyway.

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

garen shouldve been nerfed not buffed O.o hes been too much for years now.

Critmaster Garen3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Devilreaper XIII,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tvkac3Hm,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-24T20:43:54.873+0000)

garen shouldve been nerfed not buffed O.o hes been too much for years now.

what mmr are you playing at? because at plat and above hes doing poorly overall.

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tvkac3Hm,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-24T20:49:25.762+0000)

what mmr are you playing at? because at plat and above hes doing poorly overall.

this is the case with most op champions.... popularity of certain champions seem to differ in every elo. when a tank is also a fighter, or a fighter a tank and only requires item 3071 to destroy you i wouldn't call for buffs.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Devilreaper XIII,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tvkac3Hm,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-04-25T07:16:55.322+0000)

this is the case with most op champions.... popularity of certain champions seem to differ in every elo. when a tank is also a fighter, or a fighter a tank and only requires item 3071 to destroy you i wouldn't call for buffs.

are you high? first of all, garen isnt a tank. hes just a fighter.

he doesnt have the peel, lockdown, and engage potential of a tank.

second, hes one of the most buffed champions in the history of this game, exactly for the reason of how hard it is for him to make himself relevant. i dont think he has ever been op at any point in his existence.

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tvkac3Hm,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-25T13:50:24.108+0000)

are you high? first of all, garen isnt a tank. hes just a fighter.

he doesnt have the peel, lockdown, and engage potential of a tank.

second, hes one of the most buffed champions in the history of this game, exactly for the reason of how hard it is for him to make himself relevant. i dont think he has ever been op at any point in his existence.

lel na don't know how to play garen this is funny XD hes THE easiest champion to play, you lose with garen just uninstall, im just saying [sg-kiko]

he can silence he can boost his movement speed he can buff his overall defence he can instakill he buffs his ad he has free cleanse. and no matter what anyone says he is a tank too.... just give him a second out of combat lmao.

garen became a true nightmare once, he became infamous and known as CRIT garen .o. and still remained tanky af -.-

MarineRevenge3 votes

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garen shouldve been nerfed not buffed O.o hes been too much for years now.

lol you suck

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

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lol you suck gelato~

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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lol you suck

he probably doesnt even like guinea pigs.

btw. im suprised theyre buffing his q, and not his spin. there is already no reason to max e in lane unless youre against fiora, jax, or shen or someone like that who can absorb the decisive strike.

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