by how much are junglers actually "starved", how should they be compensated

LilxPaprika··1 votes·240 views

So assuming junglers need compensation is 650 gold worth a bit excessive? Comparing runeglaive with IBG. 2250 vs 2900 gold.

How about 400/500 gold top, for wards mostly and time spent roaming...

Lets say you get compensation because you spending time stalking prey. This is time spent supposedly "doing nothing" and so they get compensated with a really powerful budget item. (though i would argue it mostly as being a banking on a scenario you deem could prove to be a return on investment isn't necessarily time wasted. A good jungle can gauge on long is too long or not.. )

proposal time spend stalking prey as jungler should give gold of sorts instead of compensation being on cheap jungle items. kind of like the old conservation stacks. (why did we do away with this instead of improve on it)

Hows this. while not jungling you get gold for revealing map/ fog of war. Or get gold for time since you last jungled get +5gold in a bank that you cash in on when you pull off a successful gank (kill in question might require team participation to cash in aka someone gets assist). (fog starting in river and into enemy half of map)

Right now as jungler you get cheap jungle item. But cheap jungle items doesn't necessarily mean you'll use this "compensation" to go spend more time preparing for ganks, at the moment i'm seeing junglers just farm even more. As they can just concern themselves with rushing the rest of their build even faster. You should not ever really spend much time lagging about anyways. Top elo junglers are always doing something. (there's enough to keep a jungler busy in this game with say lanes backing giving you their wave at times etc. In fact i would argue that junglers can in certain games have some of the highest source of income / experience depending on how well they manage their route. (i thought they we actually on par with other lane tbh, i don't get the reasoning behind all this compensation)

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Shroom Junkie1 votes

Wait, what? Explain this better please, what I'm understanding is you want compensation for a jungler's time spent waiting to gank somebody, but then you said "tbh, i don't get the reasoning behind all this compensation," so that caught me off. What exactly do you mean?

ShuffledPancake1 votes

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Wait, what? Explain this better please, what I'm understanding is you want compensation for a jungler's time spent waiting to gank somebody, but then you said "tbh, i don't get the reasoning behind all this compensation," so that caught me off. What exactly do you mean?

Idk either, but id like a hitlist that you are given at the start of the match (bilgewater) and if you complete it it gives extra moneyz.

LilxPaprika1 votes

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Wait, what? Explain this better please, what I'm understanding is you want compensation for a jungler's time spent waiting to gank somebody, but then you said "tbh, i don't get the reasoning behind all this compensation," so that caught me off. What exactly do you mean?

Ya had trouble wording it. I was trying to set the stage what riot's reasoning might be. Like here's why junglers are currently getting compensated

Then me saying "do they really need this much". Where i discuss why I don't think its necessarily that well founded.

I also am not against compensation but we need to be clear on why and how more than it currently is. Its mostly a notion atm that I'd like to shed light on/better define.

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they get between 3/5ths and 4/5ths the gold a laner gets (except for supports). a jungler needs kills to break even or surpass a laner in gold.

Source?

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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Ya had trouble wording it. I was trying to set the stage what riot's reasoning might be. Like here's why junglers are currently getting compensated

Then me saying "do they really need this much". Where i discuss why I don't think its necessarily that well founded.

I also am not against compensation but we need to be clear on why and how more than it currently is. Its mostly a notion atm that I'd like to shed light on/better define.

They don't really need compensation, Riot is just making an update. One that makes some junglers OP, granted, but its not for 'compensation'.

Source?

Rofl. You don't need a source, its obvious and you can calculate it yourself if you want to know so badly.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

they get between 3/5ths and 4/5ths the gold a laner gets (except for supports). a jungler needs kills to break even or surpass a laner in gold. it also depends on how fast they can clear the jungle, they could even get less than that if they are a slow jungler like rammus.

its the price they pay for having their face MIA all the time and the ability to play make early, and the impact they could have on the map.

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