The amount of armor pen in the game is absurb

The Deckowner·Jul 8, 2016·3 votes·625 views

Tanks are basically papers under all these armor pen.

Literally every new non-crit ad item in this season has armor pen.

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RalanrJul 8, 20162 votes

And that's not even the armor pen built for tanks. Those work on everyone equally.

SiytherJul 8, 20161 votes

really i have the opposite problem even when i build all of these tanks are still too tanky for me to kill

The DeckownerJul 8, 20161 votes

You probably playing the non-fotm champs.

Not saying you shouldn't, just that these fotm are the ones abusing armor pen.

specter424Jul 8, 20161 votes

Too bad in lane they buy a chain vest and get a magical ability to outtrade people that buy damage.

Frankey88Jul 8, 20161 votes

yommuns, black cleaver , mortal reminder are what kill tanks

67chromeJul 8, 20161 votes

The amount of armor pen in the game is absurb

Absurb?

Literally every new non-crit ad item in this season has armor pen.

There are plenty of AD items lacking both crit and armor pen, so your first statement is false.

Also: Flat armor penetration is hard countered by armor.

30 flat penetration vs. 30 armor allows a champion to deal True Damage, treating a ~76% damage from physical target as a 100% damage from physical target. That works out to a DPS increase of exactly 30%.

30 flat penetration vs. 300 armor does not allow for true damage. It treats a 25% damage from physical target as a ~27% damage from physical target, or a DPS increase of ~8%.

Considering 30% more damage from AD, AS, Crit, and AP just means 30% more damage regardless of your opponent's armor or MR: Flat armor penetration is hard-countered by armor.

Tanks are extremely strong vs. the armor penetration items you listed, not the other way around.

KGDisastaJul 29, 20161 votes

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Absurb?

There are plenty of AD items lacking both crit and armor pen, so your first statement is false.

Also: Flat armor penetration is hard countered by armor.

30 flat penetration vs. 30 armor allows a champion to deal True Damage, treating a ~76% damage from physical target as a 100% damage from physical target. That works out to a DPS increase of exactly 30%.

30 flat penetration vs. 300 armor does not allow for true damage. It treats a 25% damage from physical target as a ~27% damage from physical target, or a DPS increase of ~8%.

Considering 30% more damage from AD, AS, Crit, and AP just means 30% more damage regardless of your opponent's armor or MR: Flat armor penetration is hard-countered by armor.

Tanks are extremely strong vs. the armor penetration items you listed, not the other way around.

The biggest problem is stacking 40-80 flat armour pen from items and runes, with 45% armour ignore from the LW items, plus all the built in armour pen from champion abilities. so chamsp like GP do 75% more damage than they deserve to, to full tanks. if items have pen, and runes have pen, then no ability shoudl be able to stack pen, and no % armour reduction should be allowed to stack. basically what needs to happen is people need to make a choice, LW (mortal reminder doninks...blah blah), or black cleaver. and NO other pen stacks with those. alternately make it so abilities with pen cannot benefit from any armour pen whatsoever. the current state of armour pen is beyond broken, and has been since late season 5. 600+ armour rammus dying in less than 2 s from all physical. 400+ leona (4k health), getting half healthed per barrel from gp absolutely no excuse for bullshit like that to happen.