Hi, this is iPav from NA server.
I just want to know why did riot nerf teemo/shaco's traps by changing oracle the way it is in s6 compare to s5.
Because I think that traps (teemo & shcao) were never in over powered state in s5.
To me, it just seems riot wants to force the meta in to the more LCS style-like (flashy, mobility, lots of teamfights) instead of creative gameplays.
J E B A ł T E D2 votesLooks like it's working as intended.. and you put all the traps in a line going through a common path.
Target nerf?
You're being creative?
Both highly doubtful.
Saianna2 votesIt's simple: Riot nerfs traps because they don't wanna nerf other stuff that should be nerfed (like Zed for example), so they create an illusion of doing "something", while actually they just goof around and act like they don't know what's the problem :)
Enraged Piglet1 votesI mean a person has to know the trap is there in the first place to do this intentionally and in most cases if a person knows a trap is there they can go around it. Plus this is nothing Teemo and shaco got buffed when they removed the original oracles elixir from the game which cost 400 G and would give vision of all invisible traps and champions and wards for 4 mins or until death. So having the original removed for this really isn't that bad. Especially since the support would every game buy 20 of them anyway so that you would be countered by things the support would be doing every game.
Also note that people wanted teemo and akali and champions with stealth nerfed at the removal of the original elixir but no one was.
iPav4 votes[{quoted}](name=Enraged Piglet,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tl5c7Jdq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-21T02:26:32.928+0000)
I mean a person has to know the trap is there in the first place to do this intentionally and in most cases if a person knows a trap is there they can go around it. Plus this is nothing Teemo and shaco got buffed when they removed the original oracles elixir from the game which cost 400 G and would give vision of all invisible traps and champions and wards for 4 mins or until death. So having the original removed for this really isn't that bad. Especially since the support would every game buy 20 of them anyway so that you would be countered by things the support would be doing every game.
Also note that people wanted teemo and akali and champions with stealth nerfed at the removal of the original elixir but no one was.
Hey man, oracle being 400gold was story of s2, I am comparing s5 to s6.. read the thread please Dx
FeelTheSand20164 votesYeah in season 5 we had the ability to have pink wards in the trinket slot,there is no trinketed pink ward now,and oracles doesnt give true vision versus champions,so its a nerf and buff to certain stealth based champions.imo id prefer having trinketed pink wards and remove trap stun on oracles.
Troll for Trump1 votesI feel like the Teemo R changes and the buff to Oracles, alongside with the champs shifting in meta have especially made him underpowered. Riot noticed this and buff his shroom duration. I think this can be remedied by buffing the shroom duration even more. While I did like playing him a lot back in S3, 10 min shrooms are just....reallyreally stupid.
Shaco has just been offmeta for a long time. I think Riot had considered giving him a rework.
Glebk03 votesHahaha oracle buff. With that shitty oracle you even cant reveal vayne, twitch or rengar properly. Noone cares about traps. Oracle got nerfed to hell in terms of pvp combat.
LemurMonster2 votesHahaha oracle buff. With that shitty oracle you even cant reveal vayne, twitch or rengar properly. Noone cares about traps. Oracle got nerfed to hell in terms of pvp combat.
Pretty much this..... wish they put it back to it used to be.
Troll for Trump3 votesYeah, it basically makes traps useless, and doesn't counter the champs who use stealth as a pvp mechanic, except for Teemo, who has to stand still for his (or akali maybe).
LemurMonster1 votesYeah, it basically makes traps useless, and doesn't counter the champs who use stealth as a pvp mechanic, except for Teemo, who has to stand still for his (or akali maybe).
it's sad because its not a counter.. its downright unfair for Teemo. It's why there is so many bad Teemo players because he is not meant to go in.
Troll for Trump2 votesIdk why people DON'T buy pinks or oracle's against him then complain he's Op...like..why.
It's like people who don't get QSS for Malz and WW and call them OP