So, with all the talk of Fiora being OP, I thought I should just point out some statistics

five oh tree ·6/14/2017, 10:00:55 PM·2 votes·438 views

Fiora So these boards hate fiora almost as much as they hate yasuo, and I'd like to point a few things out

Winrate: 51.62% Pickrate: 17.03% Banrate: 23.44%

So sure, she looks a little overtuned, which I agree with, BUT

Thresh I haven't seen any threads complaining about thresh in a while, however when I looked at his statistics

Winrate: 53.64% Pickrate: 40.28% Banrate: 17.88%

Why not crucify him, oh boards? I don't understand. But, continuing on here, there's more champions I want you all to consider.

(Top lane) Pantheon Everyone complaining about panth gets shot down because, "Just take play safe!"

Winrate: 54.39% Pickrate: 6.6% Banrate: 13.09%

Why don't people ask riot to stop this bullshit when he's had this winrate for a very, very long time. He's easy to pick up and use, and he has a decent pickrate. Completely faceroll easy, obviously, yet everyone acts as if it's so simple to not lose to him. "Just outsustain his mana!" lol

Elise Everyone has seen her in pro play if they've watched any games of it, but I don't believe I've ever seen a single thread complaining about her being too strong

Winrate: 52.59% Pickrate: 22.15% Banrate: 32.65%

That's horrendous. Why do you all prefer facing her over Fiora? What actually makes you feel worse? I would genuinely like to know your thoughts.

Now, the meaning of this whole post is NOT to say Fiora is okay right now.

I agree her numbers are a little high, but it should only take some minor tweaking to put her in line. The meaning of this thread is to open discussion on champions that are clearly far stronger than Fiora, but are not complained about. I just want to know why it's specifically Fiora that you all hate. God knows I'd face a hundred Fioras in a day before I happily play against Pantheon.

My favorite, closest comparison yet though: TwistedFate This champion is not complained about basically at all. He's fair and balanced, in my opinion, and it would seem that you all agree with me.

Winrate: 51.66% Pickrate: 14.31% Banrate: 6.16%

His winrate and pickrate are VERY close to Fiora's, yet no one hates him, while it seems the entirety of the boards hates her. Please tell me what inspires your hatred for champions in the comments below.

TL;DR: there are several champions who are clearly more severely overtuned than Fiora, but the boards completely ignores them, and I'd like to see into the thought process behind that.

All data was pulled from OP.GG's champion analytics, which is supposedly the more accurate site for this stuff.

10 Comments

Joxcab6/14/2017, 10:02:13 PM1 votes

You're expecting logic out of the Boards.

The Boards that complains she's dominating pro play with 50% winrate.

AFilthyCaitMain6/14/2017, 10:06:32 PM1 votes

Caitlyn Got nerfed even tho her stats were fine :d

BremerdanGorst6/14/2017, 10:42:44 PM1 votes

You could argue that Pantheon's winrate is inflated because he's easy, and he's kind of a pubstomper because people in other lanes often don't respect the pings and play safe if a few seconds have passed, they don't wait to see him somewhere else. I personally hate Thresh, won't dwell on him. Elise, well, early game junglers have always had an outsized impact on games. And because of not having an ultimate, she's a stronger duelist than most early. I'm actually kinda curious what meta or item changes put her back in play, though admittedly I haven't been following pro play, did she never stop being meta even after nerfs however long ago? I'm guessing people dislike Fiora because she's mobile and difficult to duel, so unless you're a couple particular champions, you can't fight her, and can't run away once she gets close. Of course, the same could be said of most of the assassins, so maybe it's some of that dislike spilling over, having the counterplay be "Group so your team can peel."

TheDevice6/15/2017, 12:15:23 AM1 votes

People do complain about panth, thresh, and elise. Moreso thresh and panth. People complain about tryndamere and so on. Look at yasuo's stats... lower winrate and playrate yet hes getting a rework.

It't the kit. Thresh QQ threads are thing since thresh is overloaded. Just like lee sin.

They are game breaking champions. They hold too much power in the game for one champion.

ZT Xperimentor6/15/2017, 12:19:59 AM1 votes

At least you're using all the 'rate' statistics, but look at some other notorious champions'.