Remember when adcs had to build lifesteal to get good sustain?

Dasdi96··44 votes·2,159 views

Nowadays they can just rush triple crit because they have warlords bloodlust (which is broken with rfc) and a support rushing ardent to give them the sustain. I remember when adcs brought bt 3rd or 4th item for sustain. Now I see adcs completely ignoring lifesteal items going for triple crit + lw + ga + boots/another zeal item. Hell I remember when adcs had to rush lifesteal 1st item either with bt or botrk.

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GrReaper9615 votes

You dont need sustain if they die first

MLDzXnRRR4 votes

Warlords is too strong on ranged champios. They are supposed to be healed by their supports and lifesteal items, not for free by a mastery. Watching how Cait or Draven goes from 15-20 % to almost full from a crit proc is disgusting.

Blue Kaozi3 votes

Aside from some small scenarios like death dance and draven most adcs have been opting out of lifesteal for over a season now (even when ferver was superior). There are too many competing items and many carries prefer IE, 2 zeal items, and a LW upgrade. The last slot can be for lifesteal / something like GA or QSS but a carry that rushes lifesteal sets their damage back a significant margin, essentially making it a 4.5 v 5 as the other carry is actually doing things.

As is I haven't got lifesteal in ages unless i needed QSS / hexdrinker and even then I don't upgrade those items until i have to.

dominusx2 votes

i remember whenadcs took skill.

No jk they never did point and click ranges burst per second.

InstaPoppy2 votes

Remember when mages could buy sustain if they really needed it? Rip will of the ancients :(

EII 4w5 Enby1 votes

Now they get a wasted 40 AD on an expensive item! :D

Infernape2 votes

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

EII 4w5 Enby1 votes

I love Goldfish crackers.

The0nlyLordREM1 votes

I 'member

bàn1 votes

It's just the adc role adapting to the meta.

CØulrophobia1 votes

We need to spread marksmen into 3 different classes and make core builds for each of those classes. Once that is done we need to make sure no marksmen would buy item that is not in their respective class.

zlumpy1 votes

People rushed bortk because it used to be an amazing item on its own.

Executioner1 votes

Honestly they dont really need to buy sustain anymore. The supports usually bring 2 heals, a shield, and some added bonuses with them. The only problem with going triple crit + lw + ga, is there damage is going to be around 220-240. That is pretty low raw damage.

LtHoiz1 votes

And Ashe get nothing from it

xToxicOsirisx1 votes

Remember when literally everybody and their mother complained about LS being too strong. Now apparently they aren't even building it and it's too strong.

Mizaya1 votes

The main problem with Warlords is that it makes bot lane extremely stale and allows certain champs like Kog to just farm forever.

BTW, I miss BT rush days too :). Vamp scepter was only lifesteal and was like 450. And I'd just build BT PD LW and be strong as hell, on champs that were actually fun to play.

Weasel Kensei1 votes

Im a support main, and I remember when it came out. It made my favorite champ at the time Karma almost irrelevent because you couldnt poke with any real value.

Jungle couldnt gank hardly either. If you pinged for a gank, they had to be there in the next 30 seconds or they would be full HP again.

Its not much different now really. Just not AS BAD as it was. Still, like you say, makes the bottom lane stale.

Executioner1 votes

Honestly I wish they took warlords into something different. I love warlords too though. However I want to be able to poke something and force someone back out of lane. OH AND DORANS SHIELD, almost forgot that item. Then put a healing or shielding champion over that. Annoying as fuck to get them out of lane.

Meep Man1 votes

Just buy item 3076

The Yetii Rider1 votes

They didn't rush item 3072 because of lifesteal, they rushed it because it gave 100 AD.

Executioner1 votes

70 + the stacks to get to 100.

Base attack damage increased to 70 from 60. Passive maximum stacks reduced to 30 from 40. Maximum attack damage from stacks is now 30, down from 40. Maximum life steal from stacks is now 6%, down from 8%.

Ripped straight out of leaguewiki.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Yeah. The item gives 100 AD. That's why people built it. How it gets to 100 AD is irrelevant. It was incredibly slot efficient. The lifesteal had nothing to do with it. This was back when we had Varus and other champions with giant AD ratios on their skills as kings of the bot lane.

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