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Guinsoo's Rageblade Rework

Stacona··1 votes·1,004 views

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Rageblade I don't like this item being in a hybrid area since it will make the item really dominant on certain champions and mediocre on others. So my ideas will make it focused around entirely basic attackers in an attempt for the item to be in a healthier spot for the game and easier to balance for long term game health, rather than have it as a hybrid-basic attacker item.

Guinsoo's Rageblade: Recipe: Pickaxe (875g) + Recurve Bow (1000g) + 725g = 2600g

Statistics: +30 Attack Damage +40% Attack Speed UNIQUE Passive - Rage: Dealing or taking damage from large units grants a stack of Rage for 6 seconds, up to a maximum of 10 stacks of Rage. Each stack of Rage grants 5 bonus magic damage to and around your basic attack target, at 10 stacks of Rage this damage deals true damage and allows Furious Strike to be used. UNIQUE Active - Furious Strike: Consume 10 stacks of Rage to enhance your next basic attack causing it to deal double its normal damage (10 seconds cooldown). Cannot gain stacks of Rage while Furious Strike is on cooldown.

I cannot believe I have to actually say this, BUT NUMBERS CAN ALWAYS AND EASILY CHANGE!!! I grant numbers for a better idea of ideas, nothing is ever set in stone or finalized.

10 Comments

Commando Yi1 votes

that's 50 on hit true damage on rage blade instead of the current magic damage

why would anyone that scales with attack speed ever use the active to consume the stack?

Stacona1 votes

for an immediate burst of damage rather than damage over time; it was more a decision making process rather than have to use an active that consumes the Rage

Iqqi1 votes

I honestly think all they need to do is stop giving 2 stacks per melee hit.

Wenderwall1 votes

I can see the LoL END with Yi,Jax, any AS Champ abusing it. Base AD + Bonus AD + on hit Magic damage (50 max) + 50 true damage, I can see tanks melting.

Please don't ask for %hp damage or true damage items.

Stacona1 votes

Wits end has 40 magic damage and mr shred and tankiness

Also i removed minion stacking so you have to be in combat with champions to stack it up (i did large units for junglers can farm with it, but this can easily be taken away)

Wenderwall1 votes

{quoted}

Wits end has 40 magic damage and mr shred and tankiness

Also i removed minion stacking so you have to be in combat with champions to stack it up (i did large units for junglers can farm with it, but this can easily be taken away)

My only concern is True Damage. Any item giving true damage is a BEST item and will be abused.

Stacona1 votes

And yet no one is buying Wit's End, so that logic has already failed

If 50 is too high then it will be made 40 as the cap, having true damage on an item should not be a problem. Remember as much as true damage cannot be decreased it cannot be increased unlike magic damage which can actually deal more damage than the indicated value through either negative magic resistance or abilities that amplify damage. The main basic attacking class are marksmen who are meant to kill tanks so true damage does make the most sense for the item as a perk for getting maximum stacks

Wenderwall1 votes

{quoted}

And yet no one is buying Wit's End, so that logic has already failed

If 50 is too high then it will be made 40 as the cap, having true damage on an item should not be a problem. Remember as much as true damage cannot be decreased it cannot be increased unlike magic damage which can actually deal more damage than the indicated value through either negative magic resistance or abilities that amplify damage. The main basic attacking class are marksmen who are meant to kill tanks so true damage does make the most sense for the item as a perk for getting maximum stacks

Wits End doesn't have true damage. Donno what's the confusion here, That item was used on Jax and shyvana before item 3124 was there. Most of the lol players complain how %hp damage, true damage are cancerous. In fact ppl are more annoyed of Yi, Fiora able to do true damage.

Am pretty sure RIOT will not create/give true damage to any item. When an item does X damage ignoring ALL armor, spells, shields that is OP.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Raise rageblade price to 3.1k, add recurve bow to the recipe, Move the base stats on rageblade to the passive and remove melee attack double stacking. It would be a unique "No Stat" item until you get an attack off this way as well.

That's the only change rageblade needs it's fine where it's at.

Boulderox1 votes

The thing is hybrid champs are dying out, which is sad and good at the same time. Akali along with other HYBRRID type champs Evelynn can't even use item 3124, but it still exists... why out of the small pocket of hybrid champs. Jax XinZhao are the only one besides KogMaw(but he technically doesn't build anything but AS and guinso so would that still be a hybrid champ?) that is allowed to really blow the item out of proportion. Kayle can benifit, but not as drastically as the other two...

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