Fervor Was The Only Big Advantage Melee Champions Had And Adc Couldn't Abuse.....

I should probably look into these sorts of things...

Now is that from all sources, or just Vlad's damage?

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So, a maximum of 64 AD at level 18 is better than 12% increased damage from all sources? I don't think so, if an ADC has 300 AD and an Infinity Edge their crits will do 750 damage, but wait, let's ad 12% of 750 to 750, that means 840, now let's add the initial bonus damage from procing Press The Attack so 120+840=960. If we had ferver and you had max stacks on ferver(which takes 8 auto attacks) AND you were level 18 so you 64 bonus ad we'd take 364x2.5=873 this means that even at level 1 press the attack is better because it adds 30 damage at level 1, so at level 1 ferver adds 8 AD but Press the attack adds 12% bonus damage and 30 extra damage. Press the Attack is better at every level.

Press the Attack sucks. I've been playing on PBE a lot. It's not about whether 12% is good or not. That depends on the champ you're playing, and also depends on how often you are participating in teamfights.

About champs: Champs that depend on raw basic attacks and crits are better off with Lethal Tempo. 12% more damage benefits other things that normally don't get to scale off your attack speed or crits, especially abilities with high base damage... assuming you save it for after you proc PtA, which is the issue I'm getting to next.

The shitty thing about Press the Attack is that you usually miss out on a lot of damage amp because you need to apply it with 3 basic attacks. Even champs who can apply it more quickly will miss out on burst windows pretty often. Another problem is that the champ's kit won't necessarily align with the rune very well. Either you have the ability to apply it quickly and reliably, or you have the right kind of scaling to benefit from the 12%, but not many champs have both.

Example:

Irelia - She can proc it fast because Q procs onhits but her first Trinity Force proc, along with the base damage of Q will not benefit because they are used in the application of it. Imagine if you had Dark Harvest instead and got like 300 extra damage on your first Q. Forget about 12% especially since it misses your initial Q, that's peanuts.

On top of that there are other runes that give you more frontloaded damage like Dark Harvest (yes even after the nerf it's quite good) or even Electrocute or Arcane Comet. Then for raw backloaded power you have Lethal Tempo. Even for champs who benefit relatively well from 12% damage it's at an awkward place in between extremely frontloaded runes and extremely backloaded runes. It won't be optimal on very many champs unless it gets a numbers buff to compensate for its inherently bad mechanics.

TLDR - It's a mechanically bad rune. Trust me, I have a good amount of experience testing the new runes.

idc about adc cocksuckers.This rune is gigabad on bruisers thats it.

This post is literally how fervor was the only big advantage bruisers had over adc and your explanation on why fervor is worse than pta (which it isnt) is using the example of a goddamn adc. Why is fervor necassary on the melee toplaners using it previously. Fiora : 12 dmg increase from pta is useless on true dmg Camille:^ Yasuo: doesnt fit his playstyle at all since he doesnt want to stand there and keep autoing someone he wants to kite Riven: doesnt auto alot and if she does she already uses her combo inbetween making pta useless cus the 12 dmg procs when her spells are down already Urgot: attackspeed from the tree is wasted Kled : No flat ad when lane phase starts cus of tree also spells do more dmg than autos so ad is worth more than 12 dmg Gnar : If he would get mega gnar after proccing pta it would be good but fervor just does way more dps Darius : True dmg again Passive has insane ad scaling q does either . Doesnt want to have attack speed runes Renek: doesnt want as runes. Fervor was spiking early/mid game like renek did AAtrox: More ad,More heal