I don't mind the new Graves, but I'm worried.

ABlueQuaker·Nov 12, 2015·2 votes·280 views

Right now, if Graves Auto-Attacks at the same time as any other AD Carry with the same amount of Attack Speed he'll probably do 3 while the Enemy does 5. THIS IS FINE. Through his Abilities and Passive and other measures he's still as effective as an AD Carry.

What won't be fine, though, is when Riot nerfs what they've compensated the loss of those Auto-Attack with. Riot can remove Abilities from any AD Carry, but at their core they're still an AD Carry who can build Attack Speed, Damage and Crit and go melt people. If Riot did that to Graves, he wouldn't actually be able to function as a Normal AD Carry.

But like I said, I'm content with Graves being able to go around dealing 5 Attacks worth of Damage in 3 Attacks. He's meant to be a bursty AD Carry. But if and when Riot decides that they don't like that play pattern on him, please just revert him to Season 5 Graves.

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LordKentravyonNov 12, 20151 votes

I think people are overreacting a bit to him Yes he's strong but the fact that he cant shoot through units is huge

In lane as long as you have minions in front of you you can harass him

If you position properly He cant do anything other then back off or all in because his Q has a delay if it doesn't hit a wall

Ensure the all in is too dangerous and he is helpless.

In teamfights a tank in his face means he literally cant damage anyone else. Graves shouldn't be able to burst down the tank and since his extended dps os lower the tank will beat him

Now jungle graves is interesting. Overall i think its nice to see another adc capable of jungling
If its deemed over the top a small love tap on his minion knock back (maybe less distance on neutral monsters) will make his early clear weaker and more punishable Since currently the effect allows him to kite well and take minimum damage

All in all he is not difficult to play but is a fairly unique opponent to face so lets see how things are once people get the hang of it