First off, I just wanted to say it's nice to see a new support going bot. It gets boring seeing the holy trinity (Leona, Thresh, Blitz, and Morgana) every single game. Do you think that Nautilus is a little too strong for bot lane, or is he healthy as is?
Onimus Terlain6 votesHoly trinity...names 4 characters... ugh...
TeemoJenkins1 votes[{quoted}](name=Onimus Terlain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=teVbkR9T,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-04-20T22:03:36.384+0000)
Holy trinity...names 4 characters... ugh...
Glad I wasn't the only one that was bothered...
Cloud2732 votesGlad I wasn't the only one that was bothered...
Get over it. It's essentially Leona, Thresh, and Blitzcrank. But Morgana is also being played a lot, so I felt she deserved to be mentioned.
Onimus Terlain3 votesGet over it. It's essentially Leona, Thresh, and Blitzcrank. But Morgana is also being played a lot, so I felt she deserved to be mentioned.
Then you say "the holy trinity (Leona, Thresh and Blitzcrank) as well as Morgana."
Saying the holy trinity and then naming 4 champions means that you either don't know how to count or don't know what a trinity is.
Either way, it doesn't look good.
Zmuecat2 votesJust another CC bot with a hook, nothing really special about it aside from his ult which is point and click.
But given the four champions you've said, I guess it's still nothing special.
Shadow Gilgamesh2 votes5 great picks instead of 4 seems fine to me, he's practically just a second Leona. CC engage with Q and passive like Leona's E-Q, W gives health instead of resistance, R is a good CC ult that can be great if your opponents are dumb enough, and the DoT on shield gives a little punch early like Leona's passive. His E is really about the only thing that makes him stand out from Leona to me.
IcyPepper1 votesI'd say he's healthy, tbh. He's kind of a mix between Thresh and Leona, with decent engage and cc tools and tankiness, but not as much "save the adc" options as Thresh.
SpiderTeo1 votesI've been playing Nautilus as my main support for the last few years. I don't think he's "too strong" since he does have his counters as everyone else. In fact, he shares a counter with Thresh and Blitz: he can't hook through minions. Blitz is overrated, to be honest. Everything he does needs to be within melee range, outside of his rocket grab. If you avoid the grab, then Blitzcrank is pretty much useless during laning. At least Thresh and Nautilus have other things in their respective kits that make them more valuable than Blitz in the bot lane.
Nautilus does have a lot of cc, and even his passive is enough to deter opponents from getting close. However, he plays best like a meat shield. In that regard, Nautilus is similar to Leona, by getting in the way of the enemies' path as they aim for the ADC, using his abilities to slow or neutralize those threats. This does bring significant risk to himself, because his shield is his only form of direct damage mitigation this early in the game. Sure, he'll last longer than the ADC, but it's nothing to compare to Braum's Unbreakable ability.
In short, yeah, I think Nautilus is "healthy" as a tanky bot lane support. I certainly didn't think he needed that slight buff to his Rip Tide ability in Patch 5.5, since his autoattacks do well enough without needing to rely on his abilities.
Puri Puri Taric1 votesnot op in botlane for my taste leona poops all over him and so does thresh
TheFrozenIsles1 votesWell like other have said. He play a lot like Leona with a mix of Thresh or Blitz. The only big change is his R point and click.
Oh you forgot to put Annie in your support list.
femmé1 votesI feel sad for naut he was all pumped up for the tank meta again and to be played in the jungle. Then some one played him support and now he missed his chance to shine with zac and sej in the tank jungle meta.
Krigjer1 votesWay too tanky, way too fast. Like a Braum on steroids, with triple the kill potential.
Yeah, yeah, it's nice having more champions being played support, but it's a nightmare to vs.