I hate leagues state but it's hard to quit the game.

Daxanater··203 votes·9,545 views

I've been playing since season 3 and it's a really difficult task for me at least to leave this game.

It's not that it's keeping me entertained, let me describe it's state right now for you. This game CURRENTLY is absolute garbage, it's falling down hill just like Bernie's campaign, Balance is joke, ranked? what's that. It's currently in it's worst state, this games never been perfect but it's also never been this bad. Don't go tell me I'll say that about the next season and if I every do it just proves that this game it's shit, thats how much I (insert all negative vibes in here) this game.

But it's hard to quit for me at least, I can't say I'll quit the game and go to overwatch. This game is something I come home to. So it's almost like an addiction, I saw the video named "I love league of legends, but hate playing it" and that's really what I feel right now.

Riot, not like you're reading this but just please make this game great again, or I'm gonna say this bluntly give it to another company, and it's hard for me to say that too. The reason why I'm saying that is because I lost faith in riot as a company. Prospering things and then saying it's not coming back (solo queue), they admit their mistakes but when they "fix" them they are going in the wrong direction entirely.

I don't really care how much downvotes this gets because I believe everything that I mentioned and nothing will change it.

152 Comments

Keevalroy61 votes

I have it a bit easier (it was pretty easy for me to walk away) because my disgust for what League has become started like two and a half years ago. I wasn't nearly at the level of "disgusted" back then, but there were times where I would read the patch notes just to think: Wait...what the fuck did I just read? Are you kidding me Riot?? Suggestions at the bottom if you don't want to wade through the lake of salt.

I watched their favoritism for champions like Lee and Zed warp the meta to the way they want it - to appeal to spectators.

I watched those spectators scream when flashy plays happened, prompting Riot to invest resources into making mobility-creeped monstrosities.

I watched Thresh and Yasuo be released who indirectly set the standard for new champs and reworks to be overloaded to Hell and back for the sake of being unique, fun to play, and fun to watch, all at the expense of the old standard of champions.

I watched the season 4 jungle chances where most struggled to clear, (except Lee Sin - God forbid he'd have problems) and off-meta picks got the hell beat out of them for having the audacity to show their face where they aren't welcome. This shouldn't have been as surprising as it was to Riot.

I watched mobility metastasize with the reassurance that "Mobility creep is definitely on our radar"....then came Kalista. At first when I saw the reveal on S@20, I honestly thought it was a sick joke. When I saw CertainlyT was the designer, my heart sank realizing this was a real thing, and that he's going to introduce another tumor to the roster.

I watched Ekko, who took the form of an un-killable, un-kiteable, un-bearable "assassin" who also happened to have 3 slows - one of which was from a 3 hit passive which chunked you AND gave him a speedup, an AoE stun, percent execute damage, a dash blink combo, and an Oops button that gave an AoE AP nuke and HEALED HIM. All the while, his mana costs let him spam relentlessly, because as we've seen this season, having cooldowns are apparently anti-fun.

I watched the healthiest and most balanced state League had ever been in during the middle of Season 5 disappear with the Juggernaut catastrophe, which wasn't dealt with because it wouldn't be fair to the pros for drastic changes to happen so close to Worlds. If anyone reading this happened to be involved with the decision to hold off, seriously, fuck yourself.

I watched Preseason 6 and all of its cancerous changes pollute and corrupt everything that made this game fun to play after we screamed bloody murder that everything was broken, unhealthy, Yasuo and Trynd were going to be out of control from your bullshit Keystones, Graves was walking over everyone, Soraka was even worse to deal with, ADC's were in every lane not because people wanted to test them, but because it was the most optimal way to play...etc. And Riot did nothing except steamroll ahead with it.

I watched Kench and Kindred released. Why? Why would you allow these champions to exist? Did you hear our complaints that having both teams line up mid and vaporize each other in 2 seconds and think "Welp, I guess dying is anti-fun lawl, here ya go!" not even mentioning unnecessary passives included. And then there's Jhin with his book report essay for a passive which lets him outplay people with a 1400 damage right-click late game. But I guess he's unique right? Mission accomplished?

I watched this Dynamic Queue shitshow knowing full-well after so long of being lied to and disappointed that they had no intention of bringing Solo Queue back, but remain angry with them for the same reason as everyone else, in addition to seeing them lead players on, reminding them that it's still on the way, don't worry guys, we're not lying to you, just wait, it's coming, it's definitely coming, no, we're serious, lol fuck you we lied.

The last thing I watched before I quit was the projected mage update. I'm just going to ignore the broken champions that came out of it and focus on one particular addition that ultimately made me walk away: Protobelt. Since Riot is so stubborn in their refusal to tackle mobility, their solution to immobile mages...is mobility. Holy fucking shitballs what a great idea. Let's not do a goddamn thing about mobility creep other than accentuate the problem, and you know what? Let's make it shoot rockets so mobile mages have another thing to add to their burst combo. "But they don't buy it." They want to buff Protobelt! It's the same problem as Duskblade, which was introduced with the same rationale as they used to remove DFG! You don't see collateral damage right now, why would you? People are building full tank on assassins for Christ's sake. Once you get rid of that, who's buying it now? Zed? Riven? Pantheon? Talon? J4? (Which was done in LCS recently) Rengar? Just wait for it to happen.

There's plenty more I could go on about, but those are some of the major points that led me to question why I'm even playing because going through all of the nerfs and buffs and the contracting reasoning to justify them would be way too long. Right now, I'm just hoping Season 7 will actually be fun. I might come back at the end of the season just to get my Victorious rewards again, but that might be all for S6.

/rant

Personally, Civ 5, XCOM, Vanilla WoW servers, Darkest Dungeon, and modded Skyrim have kept me company recently, and since my tendinosis has been healing, I can actually play guitar again. Not sure what you're into so I can't help much.

Miss Luxanna6 votes

I love Jhin. That is all.

Hyrum Graff27 votes

[{quoted}](name=Goddess Madoka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=te8WJLNf,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2016-06-19T07:56:00.195+0000)

I love Jhin. That is all.

-1. Not four words.

Miss Luxanna24 votes

I love Jhin's perfection.

Silverthane9 votes

yeah these problems and their stubbornness have made the decision of leaving them easier for me as well. i began playing around the same time you did :D

I've enjoyed of more free time ever since i stopped playing league. I personally don't think i've permanently quit yet just taking a break from it until riot decides to take their head out of their ass and listen to their customers for once in their lives.

Keevalroy6 votes

listen to their customers for once in their lives.

Well, they used to. When I started after Draven's release, I browsed the forums from time to time and saw a lot of community interaction...of course back then people were generally happy with the game. It's not that they never listened, in terms of gameplay specifically, it's just that they don't do it nearly as much now, and it's mostly seen as corporate PR-speak or dismissive indignation. Story and Art on the other hand have constant interaction, which is pretty great. Even if it's not the reds from the department you're looking for, it's still nice to see reds here who haven't fled to the policed forums of Reddit when people started getting angry with awful decisions.

Darth Kancerus7 votes

Hey that was a nice essay and a healthy salt supply enough for 2-3 years.

You are right about most things though.x

Keevalroy5 votes

If nothing else, I can say I saved people tons of money on salt purchases.

TheI3igDaddy4 votes

I was about to write a comment as well about this, but you took every word of my mouth. This entire post is why I haven't played at all since last August.

BloodLord Kitty2 votes

Im in the same place as all of you. Started Season 3 when Zac came out and the game seemed pretty fun. Some champions were unbearable but I thought it was simply because I was bronze which meant that I sucked and didn't know what to do. 3 years later and I got plat right before season resets. And you know what? I just watched some videos made in 2013 and it was the most balanced season ever. Even though i didn't know how to use cougar form i loved to play Nidalee and throw spears and deal tons of damage. Remember when Renekton was king of top lane? or when Shen was unkillable? DFG always being overkilled? or maybe you remember Kat having no counter? Well at the end of the day I can tell you it was probably the most fun I ever had in this game. Right mid season 5 was balanced but was it really fun? It was more about team game and strategy because no one could 1 shot you or kill you without have a possible counter. In the end I feel like season 3 was really fun and mid season 5 right before the juggernaut update was very balanced but now it's pretty stupid. i regret paying over 250$ on this game and I wish I could just sell my account, get my money back and maybe start off with some other games like overwatch, csgo maybe even DotA who knows. I still do fully agree with you and I wish Riot would stop lying and bring back the solo Q games we loved and spammed 3-4 and even 5 to 6 years ago.

Leonerdo1 votes

Keep in mind that I don't mean any of this in a bad way, but it sounds like you just don't like fast-paced games. League has definitely been trending towards a faster pace with the mobility and complicated kits (hard to dispute that). And people have gotten better at making fast plays. So given the list of games you provided at the end, it just seems like league is not your kind of game. Also, maybe you just don't like change? That's all fine; there's nothing wrong with those preferences.

But it doesn't make league a worse game. From my perspective, Riot has been adding new and interesting things that move the game forward. And while they fuck up sometimes, they try to fix their mistakes quickly. So overall, I'd say league has improved over the years. I'd hate for all the changes that people complain about to be reverted, because in that case we'd all be playing the same game from 2009 but with better graphics and more skins.

Keevalroy3 votes

It's not that I hate mobility - I actually believe there's a place for it believe it or not, it just pisses me off when everyone is getting mobility when they either don't need it, or shouldn't have it. For an example that I keep bringing up, Ahri's Q speed shouldn't be in her kit. If Riot wants to push for thematic gameplay like Rek blindness and Graves having a real shotgun, it should be obvious why getting movement speed after throwing an orb somehow makes more sense than the "Kiss of Death" that this succubus briefly had. One is obviously more thematic than the other, but it's cast aside because of something which is defended for being "fun and unique" just like every other nonsensical aspect of a kit such as Kalista hopping like a kangaroo on crack after every attack for some strange reason. That strange reason is it makes the character more flashy and fun to watch...thematic design be damned as long as champions can zip across the screen to keep people with low attention spans watching. I guess that's also why ward hopping still exists.

From my perspective, Riot has been adding new and interesting things that move the game forward. And while they fuck up sometimes, they try to fix their mistakes quickly. So overall, I'd say league has improved over the years. I'd hate for all the changes that people complain about to be reverted, because in that case we'd all be playing the same game from 2009 but with better graphics and more skins.

From my perspective, I highly disagree, but the strongest part of that feeling comes from the time of the GP/Fiora VU's going forward up to the point where I quit two months ago.

I see what you're saying for the last part, and I don't think it would be nearly that severe. It won't happen, but I'd love it if they dialed everything back to the start of Season 4 and ask "what went wrong from this point?" Then again, I'm also one of the people advocating for legacy WoW servers because I hate the changes Blizzard has made over the last six years, so maybe starting over, if unsuccessful, might be interesting at least as a separate client.

KillerPenguins39 votes

The painful part is how much I love league. I just can't stand to play it right now.

Daxanater3 votes

Same man

Dreadlocks12 votes

I feel like the competitive aspect is just destroyed entirely... I played sc1 for 7 years and ive gone back to play it occasionally, but its too stressful for me now a days. Its a super competitive game and a great game at that. League (and when i played dota) had that casual/competitive vibe. But i feel like this is just way too casual for a game of this type. I mean.. Isn't that the entire point of having multiple game modes? So you can play what you feel? Maybe you're feeling really casual, ->norms, aram, dominon, teambuilder etc. And if you are feeling competitive you have ranked solo, 5s and 3s... Now even ranked feels casual. I hardly even play on this account anymore. I would rather play with my friends on my smurf acc and pub stomp a broken system. I wish i could say i feel guilty doing it, but quite frankly, Riot did this to the game, not me.

MonkeyMadness6 votes

Riot claims they want to expand the competitive scene and make LoL more like a traditional sport. Then they remove the competition and leave the pros high and dry to the point where they literally make their own solo queue. Classic rito.

Jahsuo Onfroy3 votes

na solo queue is a fucking joke in terms of high level play. Glad that they finally switched over to playing the in house server so they get valid practice against pro's, something they could've and should've done a long time ago

Xenos111114 votes

When I look back to how much I enjoyed League back when I started in season 3, then take a look at this mess of a season, it just makes me sad and frustrated. And what frustrates me even more that Riot keeps going even further in the opposite direction from what made League fun for me.

AsianProdigy17 votes

After first playing this game back in season 3 and spend countless $$ on skins, its hard to just walk away from it all.

League has been a game that has always kept my attention with the constant updates to gameplay and cosmetics, keeping this game fresh. However, season 6 has just been a complete landslide. I find myself not having fun in any of the games I play now. Even ranked games are not satisfying as it was before season 6. Maybe because Dynamic Que has basically killed the meaning of ranked.

I question myself on why I continue to play this horrific game with awful balancing issues and just stress over every game I play.

Its probably because its just so hard for me to let go of a game that I used to love dearly

Clyp30 4fun17 votes

why all the post that ends up with "I don't really care how much downvotes this gets" ends up has the most upvoted

I don't really care how much downvotes this gets

Dr Poro12 votes

"We screwed up."

"So what will you do about it?"

"Nothing."

I feel like a lot of Rioters actually want to do something about it and have great ideas how to fix it, but everything seems to be blocked higher-up by people who have the money but know NOTHING about the game.

Red Silk3 votes

I feel like a lot of Rioters actually want to do something about it and have great ideas how to fix it, but everything seems to be blocked higher-up by people who have the money but know NOTHING about the game.

I didn't think about this before, but, seems likely now that you think about it tbh. Rioters love the game as much as we do, and play it as well, so, they should be experiencing the same problems.

RoodToob9 votes

I understand what you mean, and I'm sorry you feel like this, but i gotta answer on some of your comments

{quoted}

I've been playing since season 3 and it's a really difficult task for me at least to leave this game.

It's not that it's keeping me entertained, let me describe it's state right now for you. This game CURRENTLY is absolute garbage, it's falling down hill just like Bernie's campaign, Balance is joke, ranked? what's that. It's currently in it's worst state, this games never been perfect but it's also never been this bad. Don't go tell me I'll say that about the next season and if I every do it just proves that this game it's shit, thats how much I (insert all negative vibes in here) this game.

I understand the DQ annoyance and saying ranked is a joke, but there are so little balance complaints compared to lets say march. Its so much better according to the boards at least, and I'm having much more fun than earlier this season.

But it's hard to quit for me at least, I can't say I'll quit the game and go to overwatch. This game is something I come home to. So it's almost like an addiction, I saw the video named "I love league of legends, but hate playing it" and that's really what I feel right now.

That video talks about the community being awful, not the balance, which is what you were talking about. I suppose you could say you love League, but currently balance is not to your liking, but that video is about the community taking the game too seriously in normals. Fun comps means you get reported for assisting enemy team.

Riot, not like you're reading this but just please make this game great again, or I'm gonna say this bluntly give it to another company, and it's hard for me to say that too. The reason why I'm saying that is because I lost faith in riot as a company. Prospering things and then saying it's not coming back (solo queue), they admit their mistakes but when they "fix" them they are going in the wrong direction entirely.

Riot might rarely answer, but trust me, they do read most of these threads. They know what their community thinks, and try to make it better. An example of this is the badge that will be coming. There were actually a decent amount of people that suggested this, or agreed with someone who did, but now its announced their crapping on Riot's decision because they see the negatives in the badge and how some might abuse it.

Also, to anyone reading this far down, Riot has no plans to return solo queue, but have said if ranked truly goes to shit for most of the player base, they will return it. You guys might just see that and go "Pfft, they lie again" but thats not true. Different teams at Riot work on different things, as well as some rioters having different opinions. I GUARANTEE there are Rioters that would prefer a Solo Queue but if they said that you'd probably call them all liars due to the decisions the company as a whole have taken.

Rioters that say things are not always official messages from Riot, and you guys need to understand this

I don't really care how much downvotes this gets because I believe everything that I mentioned and nothing will change it.

Nah, you don't deserve a down vote, your opinion does matter and its important you voice it [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

ThePartyLeader6 votes

After reading that all I can think of is " Make league great again, let's build a wall through river and blue side will pay for it!" http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax/files/16/16a7c535-91a1-4026-ab34-0e7db88f462a.jpg

ModCaptainMårvelous5 votes

While you're probably right about ranked, Balance is certainly not the worst it's every been. In fact, it's likely better than previous seasons because Riot's actually addressing problems and not flat out gutting champions like they did in Season 1/Season 2.

Battlecast Sona4 votes

people like to conveniently forget that Riot's old response to things was just "we'll nerf this to unplayability for 2 years and tell you to your face that that is our intention."

kurufal2 votes

There have been 4 seasons of more balanced seasons since S1 and S2.... stop saying how unbalanced it was in S1 and S2, most don't even recall those seasons.

macromite4 votes

cough cough Season 1 cough cough

Just because you weren't there, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Give it some time, allow league some patience for all of the years It was good. It may take a season and a half to fix the issues, but when it's done it will be better than it has ever been.

Sir Fuzzi4 votes

I got two big problems with League as it stands,

1: As per the internet, the playerbase seems very unwilling to face the problem of 'it's total garbage, even compared to WoW's playerbase.' League might have the worst playerbase of all time. Of all time!

2: Everybody thinks the only answers are to join the trolls or quit.

I joined in season 3. About all that's changed is player disposition as far as I'm concerned, which is crazy because League was already worse than WoW even then. And here I always say that the bottom of the barrel is just a checkpoint.

Anyway, if you want to quit you have to start by uninstalling and then you've got to actually get up, away from the computer, when you want to play Leeg. Serious, games are a habit and you gotta break 'em.

Me, I still manage to enjoy the experience with friends. I also don't play ranked; I firmly suggest this is part of why I enjoy League so much still.

kaltenashes3 votes

I play lol since ezreal's release (i didnt get to play season 4 and cinderhulk), right now i stopped playing, there are no other mobas that i like as much as i lol, just checking boards mostly for memes and hoping rito will decide not to match premades vs solo

If it doesnt, eventually i'll be gone

Bladerunner77773 votes

You don't have to quit it...

Just REPLACE it with another game. League looks like it will be around for a while so you can always come back to it later

Miss Luxanna3 votes

I can't quit League and just let $1,000+ go to waste. Moral of the story : Don't waste your money.

MLDzXnRRR7 votes

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I can't quit League and just let $1,000+ go to waste. Moral of the story : Don't waste your money.

Your account is going nowhere and you can play in the future, if the game changes and becomes fun again.

It's funny that they made the game faster, but the LCS is still farm fest.

BloodyTompon3 votes

it's falling down hill just like Bernie's campaign,

Savage

Melledoneus3 votes

A little off topic, but what's with everyone flocking to Overwatch?

I know the game is good, but I hear mostly League players talking about this game the most. I mean, we have Dark Souls, Uncharted, etc. So why Overwatch? Is it the objective focused gameplay? Is it the fact that it's multiplayer? Is it Tracer?

Keevalroy3 votes

So why Overwatch?

New IP from Blizzard created by a lot of the original WoW team including Jeff Kaplan? Kreygasm.

Is it the objective focused gameplay?

Gameplay itself. Fun, fast, it has a gorgeous environment, generous selection of maps with different modes, fantastic character designs, and they actually see something unhealthy and do something about it.

Is it the fact that it's multiplayer?

I suppose it helps.

Is it Tracer?

Pfft. D.Va best girl.

Rebonack3 votes

Pretty easy for me to walk away since Riot removed the only map I enjoyed playing.

Orangesilk2 votes

Umm, most of this is happening BECAUSE Riot sold out to another company (Tencent) Who are known for making short-lived cashgrab games that rapidly fall into obscurity so, no, another company absolutely isn't the solution to our problems, it's actually the cause of them.

BluePolarizer14 votes

Tencent has had majority shares with Riot since 2012.

Zone of Endless2 votes

i stopped playing league until ranked is fixed. Right now the only time I play is if my friend is asking to do custom.

MonkeyMadness2 votes

I relate entirely. LoL is an abusive spouse. You know you should leave, but you keep coming back because it's all you know.

Seriously though, regardless of your lingering feelings for LoL you should try out Overwatch. It's spectacular, and I've never been one for PC shooters. And they are shipping a ranked mode soon that already seems more sound than this. And while premades will be allowed to queue together, there is a decent in game voice chat function that should curb their advantage.

Mega 16 Bit Boss2 votes

Part of the business model with this free to play game is that you become invested emotionally when you put in excessive time leveling an account, acquiring the IP to buy champions, runes, and rune pages. You feel financially invested when you spend money on the skins, icons, and maybe even an account name change. With most games running around 35 minutes to an hour it becomes a second life that you live on the internet that is very similar to how people become trapped in MMO games. League used to be fun and then the game is changed in ways that you don't like. I relate to you that's for sure. I had a similar experience to World of Warcraft and then League. A solution I used was to play other games and think of your time spent in what used to be as fun entertainment with great memories. If your relationship with a game isn't good it isn't like you can fix it because you aren't a game developer. There are lots of great console and PC games out that can give you a fresh experience. Good luck!

gottrjr2 votes

I am scaling back how much I play until matchmaking is fixed. I shouldn't be required to carry noobs. Match me with like skilled players ffs.

Monsta Moo2 votes

Overwatch got me hooked, try it out and stay with it for a lil bit. Bard

deadlychuck2 votes

Trust me, I've been playing since early season 1. I hate the direction they took this game. For a while they just expanded it, but then failed to balanced where they expanded upon. Now they've stopped expanding and they're literally changing the game.

Punkkee2 votes

i think league contains nicotine

Kalaria2 votes

I have been playing LOL since BEFORE season 1 back when akali just came out, I haven't played since right after Jhin came out =/ ...I still like to look at the skin updates and the new champions, but I have absolutely no desire to play

Only Play Darius2 votes

This game is an addiction, but don't worry it's getting worse, soon it will be so awful that you won't genuinely have any desire to login, regardless of your relationship. Frankly i'm waiting for that day to come.

PiVoRx2 votes

Thats why i bought overwatch to help me leave this shit.

PePsiLemoNN2 votes
  1. Find another game to play
  2. You'll play League less and less
  3. Done

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