his ult honestly gives no counter play what so ever, doesn't matter if you beat him in lane, he snow balls once bot lane, grabs a double, grabs a lich bane and comes back and destroys you
yes this is a gold player complaining like a bronze, but I legit do not know how to express how much i hate this fucking champion, are we going to see this sushi get nerfed some time
downvotes here they come.
TNHA Baritone24 votesThis is a Plat 3 player who agrees with you. I will say this: Your rank means nothing when it comes to validating your statement.
Daxanater4 votesthanks bro
L Psy Kongroo19 votesI hate LeBlanc more tbh. She has an even safer lane phase than Fizz, and her pre-6 damage hurts a LOT more, whereas Fizz usually doesn't have much kill pressure before 6. LB also roams better and can delete people faster than Fizz.
MunchCrunchLunch10 votesright? lb dashes to you at level 2-3. does 250-300 damage
outplayed
Troll for Trump11 votesAt least she falls off lategame, can't build tanky, and has to always go full Ap (AP assassin Fizz, Tank Fizz jgl, Tank/Bruiser Fizz top). Fizz doesn't even need that much Ap to do dmg. Fizz sacrifices the earlygame presence of LB to have a much more steady amount of impact as the game progresses.
But that's not to say early game fizz is useless; His lv 3 combo can still do a crp ton of dmg
Bârd1 votescan't build tanky
Troll for Trump1 votesA offmeta guy doing well in medium/low elos does not make a build good.
Strangely enough, I had encountered Tank Talon, which lost to Zac Top.
Distorted Lotus 1 votesThis is in master my friend.
Troll for Trump1 votesOne guy doing well with an unexpected build does not make it strong.
Either case, ranked doesn't mean much in this elo anymore. Still did well so gj with that.
Vistha Kai2 votesI'd say this is from Russia, if it wasn't for the lack of bottles.
SwiftKitten8812 votesnot really.. he is annoying yes.. but personally i think 
is the most toxic... shaco is balanced yes...
but every ability he has is designed just to troll you.. he flashes and turns invisible.. he has a clone that explodes to hurt you if u kill it... his boxes fear you...
he is a evil clown with a dagger.. he is freaking designed to give little children nightmares..
he was designed to be toxic... I'm just glad he isn't ONLY toxic and not also broken
Nilok6 votesHonestly, Shaco falls off so hard late game he isn't an issue.
I have a saying, Shaco trolls everyone, his enemies early game, and his teammates late game.
Yosuke Apperu1 votesnot really.. he is annoying yes.. but personally i think
but every ability he has is designed just to troll you.. he flashes and turns invisible.. he has a clone that explodes to hurt you if u kill it... his boxes fear you...
he is a evil clown with a dagger.. he is freaking designed to give little children nightmares..
he was designed to be toxic... I'm just glad he isn't ONLY toxic and not also broken
Imo shaco has too long of a stealth on too short of a cool down.. It also surprises me that riot didn't pigeon hole him into a certain role. Like it's a good thing he can go ap or ad, both is equally viable.. but it just feels weird that riot has left him alone.
Br4ndon1 votesnot really.. he is annoying yes.. but personally i think
but every ability he has is designed just to troll you.. he flashes and turns invisible.. he has a clone that explodes to hurt you if u kill it... his boxes fear you...
he is a evil clown with a dagger.. he is freaking designed to give little children nightmares..
he was designed to be toxic... I'm just glad he isn't ONLY toxic and not also broken
Cant stand playing against Shaco....
Fisherman Fízz8 votesExplain why Fizz ult gives no counter play? It's a skillshot + it can be removed with QSS.
RespectPlus5 votesIts a skillshot, but has the biggest hitbox of the game
MunchCrunchLunch4 votesyou realize fish can ult when hes right next to you with his targetest Q right making it as safe as a point and click ability.
Knoyle2 votesJust like about anyone else? pretty sure 
the list just goes on... will all have an easy time hitting you with a skillshot from point blank due to less travel time=less time to be evaded. I don't understand how this only applies to Fizz.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesdid i say this only applies to fizz?
Knoyle1 votesNo, but the way you stated it seemed like you were trying to use such a situation as if only he benefits from it.
MunchCrunchLunch1 voteshe benefits from it the most. and some of these are rather not instant. lux is dodgable. it doesn't stick on you as it has a delay. if fizz is next to you there is no delay.
ekko you can see the shadow its your fault.
anivia is Dot.
blitzcrank well hes a support.
thresh same thing
that amazon ult doesn't instantly blow you up and apply damage amp.
u get that?
Knoyle1 votesI'm talking about skill shots like Q 's stun 's E There is no way you are dodging any of that crap pointblank without the caster being stupid, inexperienced or lagging.
well hes a support.
You haven't seen good Thresh's/Blitzcranks have you?
Death Ray1 votesThose champions above aint really good examples because they dont have 2 gapclosers like fizz. For fizz its much easier to get in range for an unavoidable ult.
Knoyle1 votesSee, now that is a fair argument, however this still does not apply only to Fizz.
All have gap closing abilities along with skillshots
Granted Fizz basically has 2 but it is also tied to his only real escape leading to him having to commit. Not saying he is the only one who ever really commits but his escape is also his most damaging ability meaning if you have means to avoid it you have means for a counter attack even if only briefly.
Supreme Vic1 votesnot after 6.9
Ruin Lance8 voteswhat? his ult of all things in his kit doesn't have counterplay? lol
ProtestantCaesar7 votes
Hahahahyena2 votesthe biohazard squad
Masala Chai6 votesFizz may be toxic, but his ult has plenty of counterplay
you can dodge it you can QSS it you can Zhonya's it it's not point + click Zed ulti yayyyy
Lauchmelder2 votesFizz may be toxic, but his ult has plenty of counterplay
you can dodge it
you can QSS ityou can Zhonya's it it's not point + click Zed ulti
FTFY Apparently you won't be able to QSS his ult in 6.9
morris16 votesYes you will. They said you can still QSS effects that have CC, so since Fizz's ult is a slow it will still drop the fish.
Lauchmelder1 votesNo, you will drop the slow but not the fish
morris110 votesGoodest Gamer1 votesBecause you can't zhonyas or qss zedd ulti..
Masala Chai1 votesZhonya's yes, QSS, not after today.
metaworldpeace105 votesThe biggest problem with fizz is no matter how hard you demolish him in lane, it just takes a small roam bot lane, resulting in a kill or two and then he snowballs out of control with little to no counter play.
AMYS GRAVE4 votesJust use your dash that makes you untargetable and the fizz ult wont hit you.
Xengre3 votesHis ult has quite a bit of counter play. O.o If anything, it is one of the most generous ults in the game. It is relatively slow, the hitbox isn't even that big but is a bit bigger than the visual. BV/QSS/Mercurial hard counter it by completely negating it, so does flash, any dash/blink, Zhongya or any other stasis. Backing off hard as you can means he can't use his E for damage in most cases which is a core part of his damage early/mid game, and still a good chunk late game, as he needs it to close the gap unless there is a mob/player he can Q to get close enough and even with the ult's knock up might not be enough.
Hex drinker/Maw/GA/Zhonga/anything that counters his burst and gives Mres+HP or a Mres+Shield make it hard for him to kill, especially if there is mobility with the champ. Personally, I think Fizz is one of the most appropriately tuned champions in the game when going AP, tho some issues can be seen when going bruiser. Having a good amount of range + AoE for clearing waves also causes issues for Fizz and prevents him from engaging, generally even forcing him to waste his little bit of mana on clearing the minion wave and not being able to roam due to this. Raw HP, in general, is very strong against Fizz especially before late game or he gets pretty fed since he will usually not have the AP to support Lich and skills and CD reduction to do much after his initial burst.
Nilok2 votesQss won't drop it anymore.
The Whamboozler3 votesNo. In fact the mage update is gonna buff him, since he'll probably be scarier with the new AP mobility item.
Snake Town3 votesI wish they would just yorick him, everyone hates him so just make him trash tier, because as it stands he either does nothing or pisses everyone off
Bârd3 votesIs Fizz toxic?
Yes, but it is not just Fizz that is the problem.
The entire assassin class (more specifically the subcategory of safe assassins) is designed to tilt people, be toxic, and feel unfair to play against.
I main support specifically so that I have the most power in the game to make assassin players suffer.
Some assassins have well defined weaknesses, but they are few and far between.
has a horrid early game, and is easily shut down if she can't get a kill early into a teamfight.
has the worst early game out of all champions, and needs several items to be relavent.
is a fucking marksman with the playstyle of an assassin. He is almost completley immobile, is squishy as hell, and can do nearly nothing to stop people from getting on top of him.
has low scalings, so pretty much has to build MPEN tank. She is heavily reliant on her cocoon, which is not that hard to dodge. Rappel does not exactly provide godlike mobility.
if she does not snowball, she has NO chance. Her passive is powerful, and with enough items she can succeed, but if she gets put behind she will be useless for the rest of the game. Oh, and pink wards. Those exist.
Then we have champions who actually see play.
all follow the same fucking formula
"You are decently safe with your innate slipperyness, your damage is high pretty much all game, and if you get ahead you instakill the enemy before they can even react. You feel unfair to play against, but its all outplays. Definatley outplays."
RespectPlus1 votesWhen I'm playing ADC and Fizz ults me, I cross my arms. There is nothing to do.
Fisherman Fízz6 votesQSS saves lives
Troll for Trump1 votesIt doesn't save you from Zed (and they're making it so Death mark ain't removed(does this mean Fizz mark stays too?)) doesn't save ya from FIzz
Fisherman Fízz3 voteshttp://prnt.sc/aug0i6 I'll just leave it there
