Can we do a total reversion of Shacos E?

Paroe··5 votes·392 views

It just... It feels like a really bad ability. Sure it increases (to less than its old damage) based on missing HP, but it feels weak to use.

So can we give it a 240+0.5bAD+0.9AP? Please? Make it a real ability again? Shaco doesnt need a %HP mechanic. Hes not that kind of champion.

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Eedat1 votes

Shaco doesnt need buffs. As long as Shaco has something to cheese, he'll always remain strong. He was sitting at a 52% WR before the patch and now hes up to 53.5%

EndersBread1 votes

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Shaco doesnt need buffs. As long as Shaco has something to cheese, he'll always remain strong. He was sitting at a 52% WR before the patch and now hes up to 53.5%

  1. Correction, 51.5% before preseason.
  2. His ap scaling really need work.
  3. You don't play shaco.
Eedat1 votes
  1. Correction, 52% on 7.21

  2. Its kind of obvious Rot doesnt want AP Shaco to be a thing

  3. Correction, he's my fifth highest mastery champ so try again

ShemsuHor1 votes

^^ last time playing a real game on shaco? 4 times 9 months ago, once in 2016 and again Jan of 2015? Your opinions have no power here Eedat.

Eedat1 votes

You realize that checking someone's match history via this site doesnt display all their normals data right? Try again.

EndersBread1 votes

{quoted}

  1. Correction, 52% on 7.21

  2. Its kind of obvious Rot doesnt want AP Shaco to be a thing

  3. Correction, he's my fifth highest mastery champ so try again

http://champion.gg/champion/Shaco/Jungle? kinda weird, I used champion.gg

Paroe1 votes

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Shaco doesnt need buffs. As long as Shaco has something to cheese, he'll always remain strong. He was sitting at a 52% WR before the patch and now hes up to 53.5%

Actually USING an ability isnt cheese. And honestly speaking... Id rather have AP shaco based on his E and have the playstyle being poke-based than hide and seek based with boxes. Further... Shacos E feels bad. INCREDIBLY bad to use compared to other abilities like it. Shaco is, also, not a champion who needs an execute mechanic. Especially one thats as weak as "+50% damage at 100% missing HP".

Also, its got a scaling bAD ratio compared to a static AP ratio. Can we maybe scale the AP ratio and reduce the base damage of boxes to compensate...? (0.5/0.6/0.7/0.8/0.9AP scaling, boxes do a static 15 damage with a 0.35 ratio)

Edit; Current: 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 / 155 (+ 60 / 75 / 90 / 105 / 120% bonus AD) (+ 75% AP)

Previous: 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 (+ 90% AP) (+ 90% bonus AD)

Its a little hybrid-ee, but thats fine. Id still prefer his old base damage and AP ratio to what we have now... AP shaco was a lot more fun before it was focused on boxes.

EndersBread1 votes

Actually I believe the old scaling was (+ 100% AP) and (+ 100% AD) according to this site. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Shaco

Paroe1 votes

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Actually I believe the old scaling was (+ 100% AP) and (+ 100% AD) according to this site. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Shaco

That was the version where he had his attack speed slow. The 210+0.9AP/0.9bAD is from after the attack speed slow was removed.

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