It's weird how little snowballing there is when you take out all of the champions who are designed to 100-0 people.
You actually get to use abilities more than once in a fight, and you don't need to build full defensive itemization, only to have almost half of your gold wasted due to pen stats which become more effective the more gold the enemy spends.
greekvandaL7 voteschamps who are meant to 100-0 people
champs who 100-0 people regardless
it's not assasins it's the shitty game balance. All of the champs listed can 100-0 people without a 10k gold lead. even tho the 1st pile of champs re the ones made to do this job.
deadlychuck8 votesThe difference is that the 2nd list of champions actually stop being able to 100-0 you, if you build defensively against them.
The majority of them anyway.
To be fair, it's not just assassins though, a good portion of the so called "divers" and "skirmishers" who are just poorly defined sub-assassins which are given either short CDs or auto attack modifiers, to do the same thing that the "assassins" have whole kits dedicated to doing.
Maddened King 2 votesTHIS
Zarvanis14 votesWhy are in both lists?
Also, do you not know what a Burst Mage is?
greekvandaL3 votesbecause i made a list of champ who SHOULD oneshot and champs who DO oneshot thats why.
Zarvanis13 votesThan you clearly don't understand Burst Mages.
If Veigar does his combo, and they're not dead, you did something wrong.
greekvandaL3 votesno champion that isnt labeled as an actual assasin should be able to 100-0 you without you beeing able to react unless the said champ is extremenly far ahead. i'm not gonna discuss this with anyone i wont change my mind either.
Zarvanis8 votesYou should have specified, "can 100-0 before you can react".
greekvandaL1 votesall of the listed champs do that without beeing more than 2-0
Golden Tager X6 votesVeigar is the most telegraphed champion in the game, if you can't react to him you can't react to anyone.
greekvandaL1 votesq-r dead. also the game isnt 1v1 its 5v5 an aoe stun is easy to land in fights.
INoble KnightI1 votesIn every game I've ever been in with a Veigar it's always been E-W-Q-R dead. Full combo
greekvandaL1 votesi just seem em press R on me after i drop 50% hp because i killed their carry and then im gone from the map.
INoble KnightI1 votesIt can happen depending on how stacked he is.
Glory ln Death2 votesThat's not 100-0, though. That's 50-0.
LeBlanc Rose1 votesHis w deals almost the same as ult at medium hp.
Troll for Trump1 votesYou can't react to veigar without flash, or something with a blink. His E's basically meant to do that. His R's unavoidable, and his Q/W will basically always hit in there.
Ever try playing Darius vs Veigar top? You can't do anything. At all. He can still kill you and get initiative, but you can't do sht.
Sad Tyrant1 votesanyone who plays Darius deserves that treatment due to Karma of them doing it to poor defenseless melee champs.
Troll for Trump1 votesI do like how Riot reworked Darius because he was unhealthy, and people complain more about his reworked form than his pre-rework form
Sad Tyrant1 votesThe point is, he is bigger dickhead (see; aggressive bully) than Renekton
Troll for Trump1 votesHas more counterplay than this guy
Oh what, "stay out of range"? lol
Sad Tyrant1 voteshahahahhahahha
Pierce The Veal1 votesI do like how Riot reworked Darius because he was unhealthy, and people complain more about his reworked form than his pre-rework form
His pre-rework form fell off, but was annoying because he dealt all three types of damage.
His new form SCALES. Gets FREE AD. And has %hp HEALS.
Lauchmelder1 votesno champion that isnt labeled as an actual assasin should be able to 100-0 you without you beeing able to react unless the said champ is extremenly far ahead. i'm not gonna discuss this with anyone i wont change my mind either.
Why? Because not being able to react is anti-fun? Damn, so I actually was right... Assassins shouldn't exist in this game.
greekvandaL1 votesif it's your JOB and only viable strat to oneshot me i'm fine with it. But when you can oneshot me with a 6second cd rotation the no sir.
Lauchmelder1 votesYou get 6 seconds to react. If you don't dodge skillshots you deserve to die.
It's like I'd complain about tanks getting killed by ADCs and their AAs in a 5 second timeframe.
greekvandaL1 votesyou and me both dw. when i've 350armor as darius yet i die like a 100armor kha.
Pierce The Veal1 votesyou and me both dw. when i've 350armor as darius yet i die like a 100armor kha.
Pretty sure mister 100 armor kha dies like an ant, while darius takes significantly more effort. It's just that kha players tend to put more effort into dodging than tank players who think it's fine to just tank all the damage coming at them.
greekvandaL1 votesi'm a god at dodging shit since i was and still am mostly an assasin main but guess what no counterplay to shitty autoattacks ehhe adc 2k17 takes skill mb2
Troll for Trump1 votesNo. You're not supposed to be dodging as many skillshots as a juggernaut. Even less so as a tank.
That's why they've got different sizes, and why assassins are inherently more mobile.
Pierce The Veal1 votesNo. You're not supposed to be dodging as many skillshots as a juggernaut. Even less so as a tank.
That's why they've got different sizes, and why assassins are inherently more mobile.
Unless you're blocking them for an ally, dodging a few will help you live significantly longer.
Troll for Trump1 votesYou're not supposed to be dodging as many skillshots
Melledoneus1 votesIf Veigar does his combo, and they're not dead, you did something wrong.
Does targeting the tank count as something wrong?
Zarvanis3 votesYes. Yes it does.
Unless it's an hour into the game, in which case, nuke the fucker.
Pierce The Veal1 votesYes. Yes it does.
Unless it's an hour into the game, in which case, nuke the fucker.
As someone who occasionaly plays draven, and usually plays assassins,
If I can't get to their backline, I'll just keep their frontline busy. A draven should have no difficulty keeping anything other than assassins off of him.
NineTailedMystic1 votesYou mean eating a CC or dropping the axe?
Borbland2 votes
"Behold my 5000 hp 300 MR !"
"R"
":'("
GULAG 4 U1 votesOnly if you can't dodge skillshots, lol.
Grymmstrike2 votesWait, what? When does Warwick one-shot people? :( FeelsBadMan
greekvandaL1 votesi got my own lil secret on that one hehe. make sure to use hyena ww for max effectiveness
Grymmstrike1 votesDoes the skin make a difference in anything? I use the Marauder Warwick skin because I hate the Hyena skin.
greekvandaL1 votesyeh just like dunkmaster you do more dmg even if you dont actually do more dmg.
Fondling Gems1 votesIt is like psychic damage in DnD. We pretend it is real damage but in reality it is just you mindfucking someone.
NineTailedMystic1 votesRadiant Damage is where its at tho.
Sad Tyrant1 voteskek
Fondling Gems1 votesWhimp, our DnD group now has slicing and water damage... AKA our DM accidentally wrote water damage on a staff so now he is just adding random types of damage to cover his mistake.
(If you were wondering slicing damage is like slashing, but extra effective vs salami.)
Sad Tyrant1 votesfull AP?
Pierce The Veal1 votesWait, what? When does Warwick one-shot people? :( FeelsBadMan
In urf I found out that with a rab cap and lich bane his Q does over 1200 damage. Add a nashors tooth and some more AP for lols.
Grymmstrike1 votesAhhh, I haven't tried AP Warwick since the rework since I heard the AP ratios were jacked over. I remember my AP Warwick being able to 50% with just a Q against someone not building MR.
Dstrabizmus1 votesWHERE IS SHACO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!