Can someone explain why Karma is so garbage now?

Cloud273··6 votes·582 views

I know she was nerfed slightly in 7.12, but Karma has now gone from an average champ to trash tier (support Karma has 45% win rate currently). Was her last round of nerfs a bit too harsh? Also, what can we do to help Karma without making her super oppressive to lane against?

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IxtaliKing4 votes

The nerfs to her E, RE and the shifting of locket from a general support item to a tank support item. If Riot nerfs Ardent she'll probably drop another percent. Karma was 1st made relevant by items, then by the over buffing of her RE.

Karma needs a small rework focused around improving her Mantras, making them all equally viable regardless of her role and giving her some skill expression.

Death by Glamour2 votes

Rework her

Get rid of the whole RQ for mid and RE for support playstyle

Dedicate her to a single role, either support or mid.

AFilthyCaitMain2 votes

She needs changes. Too oppressive if even slightly good.

SpiritOfOdysseus2 votes

I definitely think she needs some work, but not to the extent that it makes one of her build paths non-viable. That is the only thing that really irks me as a fan of any champion before a rework, it is that they completely trash either AD or AP ratios in favor of only one. Now for Karma I think she deserves better than that. Shes one of those champs that did great either bot support or mid apc and that needs to stay the same because it gives us an entire new world of diversity vs putting her in a box labeled support and annihilating any ounce of damage she could cause to the enemy.

iSeaSalt1 votes

Everyone's talking about E's and Q's. However, I got an idea for her W. Check it out on "Karma W Rework/Buff" :)

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Isn't tank Karma still unbalanced OP?

jocomotion1 votes

They Olaf'd her. She's gotten nothing but nerfs all season, and the later half of last season (even though she did deserve it.) Karma's problem is that she's too reliant on her numbers, and lacks versatility in her kit/play styles, Mid karma just RQ's support=RE Top=RW and very rarely (beyond laning phase) do these rules change. She needs a soft rework like Singed got

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