Kind of a rant on people who say "muh follow your laner"

AR URF·Nov 1, 2018·38 votes·12,534 views

Or people who do follow their laner because they have that mentality,but they're too late. I know I'm a silver player, but that doesn't make what I'm about to say invalid.

Ok anyway. Yes follow your laner, but if you're still in lane and your laner is already appeared at bot or top and you're still in lane. DON'T FOLLOW. instead take the tower or try. It's annoying for me to get 4 manned at bot or 3 manned at top and mid is just sitting there last hitting minions. Don't last hit minions and slow push. HARD PUSH THAT SHIT.

Ok I'm ready for the down-vote squad.

Edit: Fixing a few mistakes in my post for more .

29 Comments

Kingslayer RivenNov 1, 201823 votes

Just to be clear, you are saying that if you can, follow your enemy laner to help in ganks, but if you didn't realize/couldn't follow your laner, you should shove? Because if that is what you are saying, that is totally true.

AR URFNov 1, 20182 votes

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Just to be clear, you are saying that if you can, follow your enemy laner to help in ganks, but if you didn't realize/couldn't follow your laner, you should shove? Because if that is what you are saying, that is totally true.

Yes exactly. When I am playing say Lux mid against Katarina just to make something up. If I realize she's gone and am already enroute to bot lane, then yes that's a good time to follow. If I'm attack tower and she's already at bot lane, then I'm going to keep attacking tower.

I see all the time where the teammate mid laner will stop attack tower just to run bot to hopefully be there. Which is wrong in my opinion.

Kingslayer RivenNov 1, 20181 votes

Yeah I totally agree with this

AR URFNov 1, 20181 votes

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Yeah I totally agree with this

Wow when I'm rage posting, english just goes out the window for me.

DaTrout77Nov 1, 20188 votes

its always one of 3 choices. 1. follow them to which ever lane they are roaming to. 2. stay and shove. 3. roam to the opposite side of the map. Any of these options can be a good choice but being indecisive is the worst thing you could do (such as running back and forth in the jungle)

Alot of midlaners especially in low elo tend to be super nervous making a decisive call like that since they tend to get yelled at (atleast in low elo) no matter which choice they chose or which one was the correct one.

But yes in general following your laner if possible or push your lane.

AR URFNov 1, 20182 votes

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its always one of 3 choices. 1. follow them to which ever lane they are roaming to. 2. stay and shove. 3. roam to the opposite side of the map. Any of these options can be a good choice but being indecisive is the worst thing you could do (such as running back and forth in the jungle)

Alot of midlaners especially in low elo tend to be super nervous making a decisive call like that since they tend to get yelled at (atleast in low elo) no matter which choice they chose or which one was the correct one.

But yes in general following your laner if possible or push your lane.

Don't you think there's a time to make such a decision? Like if I'm hard pushing mid lane while my laner roams, and my tower is at half. Isn't it a good time to keep attacking tower and try to take it instead of playing "catch up" and try to follow them when clearly the fights will be over when I get there?

DaTrout77Nov 1, 20181 votes

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Don't you think there's a time to make such a decision? Like if I'm hard pushing mid lane while my laner roams, and my tower is at half. Isn't it a good time to keep attacking tower and try to take it instead of playing "catch up" and try to follow them when clearly the fights will be over when I get there?

It depends on how late you are. Most of the time you know when they left your lane and if your right behind them then you can easily follow them but if they are way ahead of you or they could easily catch you out in the river then yes its best to stay and push the tower.

There are tons of factors that could go into it. even showing up a bit late could end up working out really well for your team.

AR URFNov 1, 20181 votes

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It depends on how late you are. Most of the time you know when they left your lane and if your right behind them then you can easily follow them but if they are way ahead of you or they could easily catch you out in the river then yes its best to stay and push the tower.

There are tons of factors that could go into it. even showing up a bit late could end up working out really well for your team.

This is what my OP is about mostly. It's just a lot of people don't realize this.

Binding EclipseNov 1, 20184 votes

P R E A C H.

YagoNov 1, 20183 votes

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Or people who do follow their laner because they have that mentality,but they're too late. I know I'm a silver player, but that doesn't make what I'm about to say invalid.

Ok anyway. Yes follow your laner, but if you're still in lane and your laner is already appeared at bot or top and you're still in lane. DON'T FOLLOW. instead take the tower or try. It's annoying for me to get 4 manned at bot or 3 manned at top and mid is just sitting there last hitting minions. Don't last hit minions and slow push. HARD PUSH THAT SHIT.

Ok I'm ready for the down-vote squad.

Edit: Fixing a few mistakes in my post for more .

I'm formerly the 69th best Viktor in NA. I was in but lost my Diamond promos filled with D5s and D4s three times this season, and eventually quit playing because I hate this season. I probably could have continued climbing if I gave a fuck, but since I do not, I have since decayed to Platinum V.

So speaking as a higher elo player?

Don't follow your fucking laner.

If you don't have vision of their jungler and/or the enemy laner can solo kill you, all you are doing by following them is putting yourself at risk. If the enemy is roaming and they know what they're doing, you'll be missing minions and allowing your turret to take damage, too.

That's not to say that you can't follow your laner or shouldn't ever do so, but it is heavily dependent upon the match up, what else is happening on the map, and so on and so forth. Most of the time, your best play is going to be to shove a wave, recall to buy items and gain tempo/lane control, pressure their turret, farm the jungle, get vision, or roam to the other side of the map.

If you're Katarina against a Lux and the Lux goes missing you can probably follow her. She's an easy solo kill. But if Katarina roams and you're Lux? You're asking to feed the enemy assassin by blindly following them into the fog of war. Think about it, even if you do follow them and manage to turn a fight in another lane, the reason that happened is because the enemy overstayed and/or was too far out. You're expecting them to make that mistake. If they back off once they notice you are following your laner, you gain nothing, but the enemy team gains tempo.

Ideally, your allies back off and play safe when they notice your laner has roamed. This wastes your laner's time on a pointless roam, meanwhile, you gain some CS, vision, wave control, etc.

If your team won't play safe and dies to every roam it isn't your fault, it's theirs, and you shouldn't try and fix their mistakes. You're more than likely to get yourself killed trying to help them if they are that incompetent.

EvenNov 1, 20183 votes

I love when people expect me as Malzahar to follow a Talon level 3

KrigjerNov 1, 20182 votes

It all boils down to _do something. _

Either follow your laner for a countergank or shove your lane to turret. Stop sitting in the middle of your lane twiddling your thumbs.

Malix FarwinNov 1, 20182 votes

9 times out of 10 when people say "follow your laner", they ignored your pings and died to it. In most cases it the ADC. I actually start games with them muted and their pings muted because out of every laner they do the least for me in terms of teamwork.

AR URFNov 1, 20182 votes

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9 times out of 10 when people say "follow your laner", they ignored your pings and died to it. In most cases it the ADC. I actually start games with them muted and their pings muted because out of every laner they do the least for me in terms of teamwork.

I don't agree with starting with mutes because well it's a team game. weed out the toxic players from the ones that are just frustrated and mute later on, but never at the start.

Pandemic PunchNov 1, 20181 votes

Down voted because of that insecure sentence at the end.

Metal JannaNov 1, 20181 votes

Yeah it's fine if you decided you're not following your laner who just dissappeared in bot's direction, but the moment they show up bot you should start pushing the lane as hard as possible while keeping an eye out for the jungler. If the jungler is also bot then that goes double!

ez mental boomNov 1, 20181 votes

Priority

If someone complains about that while you don't have priority, just mute them. They will obviously have nothing worthwhile to say

crispy66Nov 1, 20181 votes

Here's a question, why aren't you the laner that roams ? why do you always have to be the one to follow ?

AR URFNov 1, 20181 votes

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Here's a question, why aren't you the laner that roams ? why do you always have to be the one to follow ?

I only like to roam if my champion is very mobile. Leblanc Katarina Zoe etc. if I'm playing Veigar or Anivia . Then my ass is staying put.

iamthegoatofwarNov 1, 20181 votes

Gotta agree I play immobile mages like malz, veigar, ect. I keep an eye on my laner best I can and ping missing but ain't no way in hell will I follow them into the darker parts of the map unless I'm stupidly fed. Perhaps (in my experience) bot lane should pay attention to when mid is pinging missing.

zPityNov 1, 20181 votes

mages should be cautious following assassins, like lol. If your lux, and not following zed, that's not the worst, just tell your team. Zed could be in river bush ready to pounce on you.

LeftyRaydyNov 1, 20181 votes

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Or people who do follow their laner because they have that mentality,but they're too late. I know I'm a silver player, but that doesn't make what I'm about to say invalid.

Ok anyway. Yes follow your laner, but if you're still in lane and your laner is already appeared at bot or top and you're still in lane. DON'T FOLLOW. instead take the tower or try. It's annoying for me to get 4 manned at bot or 3 manned at top and mid is just sitting there last hitting minions. Don't last hit minions and slow push. HARD PUSH THAT SHIT.

Ok I'm ready for the down-vote squad.

Edit: Fixing a few mistakes in my post for more .

It depends on the champion you are playing and who you are playing against. If I am lux and my enemy is Zed I am not going to follow Zed, but I will warn my bot lane.

If I am Ekko and I am versing Zed I might follow him pending on a things, but these are things you should consider every time.

will I have any significant impact going to bot lane (am I behind, is my lane behind, is my bot lane ahead, can my bot lane hold a siege under their tower)
Is bot under tower or attacking the enemy tower, can they be safe while I push mid lane, is our jungle around bot lane to help or around mid to push down mid tower with me?
Do we have good vision of the quickest path to assist bot lane if yes take that lane, and if we do not have good vision what is the safest way (aka don't want to be caught by the enemy mid laner and jungler) and if I take the safest way will I reach bot lane in time to assist?

NaalithNov 1, 20181 votes

Yeah I love when I play someone like Veigar and ping mia several times starting the second my lane leaves, sometimes even warn people in chat etc., then I get flamed for not following my lane. News flash, if a slow ass no mobility champ tries to follow a Zed or LeBlanc (who usually has kills from teammates) they will instantly die. People don't seem to get that.

Somber RitesNov 1, 20181 votes

I'd say it depends on the match up.

Maybe don't follow the level 6 Zed if you're playing Veigar . Just spam ping that Zed is coming, maybe type in chat, but there are some matchups where following your laner is almost never the proper choice.

Like almost any mage against Talon early game.

Obviously still push, but for a few champs, following isn't the best option. Especially against assassins.

LarrietNov 1, 20181 votes

As an Orianna player, I prefer to stay and shove, but it can be difficult when the enemy roams and I haven't tracked the jungler effectively and I'm still at a big risk by pushing. As a Taliyah player, I shove and roam the other side, of course.

Blackii7Nov 1, 20181 votes

Before you do any of the above, make sure you PING, don't just pushing without pinging your laners (It happens too much, even in plat)

Spooky SkeletonNov 2, 20181 votes

Follow my opponent? laughs in requiem https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vbqJS8Uv9SM/WyLFWG9l1FI/AAAAAAABBeM/RSrq9mEoMXIkWsWW3cH7nXUdIrqXaxoSQCLcBGAs/s1600/ee57b11cdd0a060a.png

Automated RivenNov 2, 20181 votes

Honestly the follow your laner meme reminds me of season 2 where people raged if you didn't target the adc. As the adc. The sole purpose of adc's back then was to chew through the front line, and if the enemy adc positioned well walking up to target them just resulted in you dying. Very very game, teamcomp and teamfight dependent on whether it was the right choice. Same here. It's a whine brought on by people who grasp a certain amount of flawed info on how to play the game.

WoodenCreatureNov 2, 20181 votes

Yesterday i had a 0/1/0 yasuo in a 30 min game all he was doing was farm mid. Didn't even take the mid tower LMAO. When we asked why he was basically afking all he said was ".!.". If you do not follow ur laner 2-3 times but u apply pressure it's ok but if u just care for kda and farm you're not okay.