So Teemo is allowed to be annoying and do tons of damage because "that's his thing"...

Cloud273··4 votes·2,338 views

Whenever someone complains about Teemo, everyone's always like "but he's supposed to do that lol". Well why aren't other champions allowed to have good damage and be super annoying? Why is this something that's exclusive to Teemo? And I'm referring to top lane champs, btw.

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Big Lincoln8 votes

because teemo has 0 other redeeming qualities that justify pickng him

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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because teemo has 0 other redeeming qualities that justify pickng him

Map control with his shrooms. ,,,which got nerfed over the years quite heavily tbh...

Hethalean2 votes

It's not like Teemo is in a bad spot... 10th of the top laners. 52% win rate. Top in damage dealt amongst top laners. Sooo, idk if his shrooms are all 'that nerfed'. yes yes, Oracles, and Control... you can only carry 3 oracles, and you are basically winning as teemo if you can place a shroom and force people to waste their oracles and control wards... plsu you can never get anywhere near all the shrooms cleared out reliably

Cloud2731 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tJ4utuRX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-08T23:39:20.219+0000)

because teemo has 0 other redeeming qualities that justify pickng him

Yea you're right dude. Stealth, free wards, blind, and massive AOE damage totally don't justify picking him.

reaperteaser1 votes

what else would you mean by annoying?

Martensitic4 votes

No, but these things justify NOT picking him:

  • Is one of the easiest toplane champions to gank pre 6

  • Is a freekill if he gets behind

  • Can do nothing to stop tanks

  • Can be counterpicked easily

  • Even most of the champs he counters have buildpaths that counter him (Emax Nasus anyone?)

  • Is completely screwed by all popular fighter-toplaners (Please try playing temmo vs. Fiora/Riven/Camille)

  • One of the lowest lategame impacts of all toplane champions...basically all he can effectively do, is hit&run splitpushing, and that only if the enemy team is stupid.

  • Has almost nothing to offer in teamfights

  • Sucks at sieging

  • Sucks almost as hard in defending against a Siege

  • Shrroms can simply be turned off by trinket

  • Waveclear sucks

Cloud2731 votes

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No, but these things justify NOT picking him:

  • Is one of the easiest toplane champions to gank pre 6

  • Is a freekill if he gets behind

  • Can do nothing to stop tanks

  • Can be counterpicked easily

  • Even most of the champs he counters have buildpaths that counter him (Emax Nasus anyone?)

  • Is completely screwed by all popular fighter-toplaners (Please try playing temmo vs. Fiora/Riven/Camille)

  • One of th elowest lategame impacts of all toplane champions...basically all he can effectively do, is hit&run splitpushing, and that only if the enemy team is stupid.

  • Has almost nothing to offer in teamfights

  • Sucks at sieging

  • Sucks almost as hard in defending against a Siege

  • Shrroms can simply be turned off by trinket

  • Waveclear sucks

These are all lies. He is not "easy" to gank pre 6. If someone tries to gank him, he just blinds them and they can't do sh*t. Like I said, ALL champions rely on auto attacks to some extend. I don't care who you are. Teemo can build tanky to have more survivability against tanks, and will eventually win the auto attack war with the help of his blind and "slow" items (frozen mallet, etc). There is NO counterpick to Teemo. His blind guarantees he wins trades against everyone. I'm not even going to bother discussing all these points. Teemo is useful for any situation.

Pupel3 votes

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These are all lies. He is not "easy" to gank pre 6. If someone tries to gank him, he just blinds them and they can't do sh*t. Like I said, ALL champions rely on auto attacks to some extend. I don't care who you are. Teemo can build tanky to have more survivability against tanks, and will eventually win the auto attack war with the help of his blind and "slow" items (frozen mallet, etc). There is NO counterpick to Teemo. His blind guarantees he wins trades against everyone. I'm not even going to bother discussing all these points. Teemo is useful for any situation.

Ryze Jayce Vladimir Yasuo Malphite are all top laners that don't care about being blinded and they all win trades with Teemo I have played a lot of teemo and I know what beats him

Cloud2732 votes

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Ryze Jayce Vladimir Yasuo Malphite are all top laners that don't care about being blinded and they all win trades with Teemo I have played a lot of teemo and I know what beats him

Oh ****

Oh look more lies. These champions do not beat Teemo. Against any AP top champ in this game Teemo just gets wits end and auto wins. Jayce and Yasuo don't care about being blinded lol. You're so full of sh*t.

Martensitic1 votes

Oh look more lies. These champions do not beat Teemo.

Erm....yes they do.

Hillariously so.

Its obvious that you never played any of them, and your experience on teemo is either based on playing against extremely bad players, or against AI.

Karhtel2 votes

I honestly dont know if this is a troll or not lol

Martensitic1 votes

These are all lies

I'm sorry, this strategy doesn't work here, this isn't a US presidential debate :D

If someone tries to gank him, he just blinds them and they can't do sh*t

Really? Tell me, how doe you blind Nasus W? How do you blind Vis Charge? How do you blind Khazixs WQ combo? (An explanation since you obviously never played Khazix: He uses Q midair while he jumps...so the animation takes place before he is in range of teemos blind.)

ALL champions rely on auto attacks to some extend. I don't care who you are.

Yeah, how about you explain that to my Swain toplane? I am sure he has a good laugh :D

Teemo can build tanky to have more survivability against tanks

...and be completely useless.

and will eventually win the auto attack war with the help of his blind and "slow" items

Even if that was true, which it isn't, it wouldn't matter. Tankmo offer nothing to his team, while, e.g. Maokai offers burst, CC and protection.

There is NO counterpick to Teemo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

Quepha2 votes

Be more specific, what champion do you think hasn't been allowed to deal damage and/or be annoying?

Cloud2731 votes

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Be more specific, what champion do you think hasn't been allowed to deal damage and/or be annoying?

Pretty much everyone else? The blind pretty much guarantees that he always wins trades. Literally every champ in this game relies on auto attacks to a certain extent, so in that respect he counters pretty much everyone. And thanks to his 'w' he can escape immediately after the trade.

Quinn also has access to a blind so she is pretty strong too. But unlike Teemo Quinn isn't able to immediately escape after a trade so she is much more balanced.

Quepha1 votes

Now see what you've done is blatantly segued into complaining about Teemo. If you just want to spew salt then be honest about it.

Quinn is a roaming pressure adc champion who sets up uneven fights so she can get kills, that's not really like what Teemo does.

Martensitic1 votes

The blind pretty much guarantees that he always wins trades.

No, it doesn't.

Exhibit A: Camille

E jump on teemo (which he cannot blind), Q->teemo panicblinds, wait for it to run off->empowered Q. All the while camilles passive shield is up and soaks the return damage.

Camille wins trade.


Exhibit B: Swain

Don't even need an explanation here. QE, if temmo tries to follow, he gets W-ed and takes even more damage. If he is stupid enough to follow further, Swain ults and gets free 300g.

Swain wins trade


Exhibit C: Emax Nasus

Nasus casts E. (which has about 3x the range of temmos blind) Temmo takes 1/4 of his hp as initial damage. If temmo tires to avoid, Nasus simply blows up the wave with E and laughs while temmo tries to avoid minion damage

Oh, and good luck on waiting for a doubleDorans Meditation Nasus to run out of mana. Doesn't happen.

Nasus wins trade


Exhibit D: Qmax Nasus

Lets temmo have the illusion of lane control for the forst 5 minutes. comes back with spectres+mercs Ws temmo (qhich you can't blind) fakes the Q, waits the blind and kills temmo with 2 Qs and an E.

Nasus wins trade


Exhibit E: Akali

Qs temmo. invisblinks to him. temmo blinds, blind wears off, attacks, Q triggers, E, temmo lost 50%hp. Akali runs into stealth zone, temmo can't follow (slowed, akali sped up). wait for zone CD, rinse and repeat.

post 6, akali doesn't even bother waiting for CD, triple jump garantuees a kill. Nothing temmo can do.

Akali wins trade

I have more, but I am busy laughing right now :D

Jezebelle1 votes

Why is Yasuo allowed to be the best fighter and assassin at the same time? Thread is ill-informed, and down-voted.

RlP K0BE1 votes

I don't know about calling him the best fighter... and he's definitely not the best assassin either.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Tons of champions do lots of damage and are annoying?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes
  1. That's basically his thing (when mainly going against melee champions), hence, why he's referred as "Satan" a lot.

  2. His annoyance was compensated with his immobility to escape ganks & such.

Martensitic1 votes

Well why aren't other champions allowed to have good damage and be super annoying?

Gangplank basically does what Teemo does, only at higher range. Also: Free gold for some reason.

Singed I won't even explain. It should be bleedin' bvious.

Tryndamere Oh you died 7 times in lane? Doesn't matter. You will still mow down turrets like noones business.

Nasus "Relax guys, its a Nasus, ez lane...WHAT THE F IS THAT DAMAGE???OMG!!!1!!"

You were saying?

Cloud2731 votes

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Gangplank basically does what Teemo does, only at higher range. Also: Free gold for some reason.

Singed I won't even explain. It should be bleedin' bvious.

Tryndamere Oh you died 7 times in lane? Doesn't matter. You will still mow down turrets like noones business.

Nasus "Relax guys, its a Nasus, ez lane...WHAT THE F IS THAT DAMAGE???OMG!!!1!!"

You were saying?

Ok I'll give you Tryndamere. The other, no. They have really high mana costs and don't get free poke all game.

Martensitic1 votes

You obviously never played any of them, so yeah, still not an excuse.

Singed has Manacosts? Oookay...where exactly? Because, even if I ever run out of mana, I just press my super-low-cd ult and just fill up again...complete with refilling my HP. And that's early game. Mid-Late, I don't even bother turning off my poison trail any more.

Nasus has high Mana costs? I have over 900games on that champ, and no, he does not. Not even when I go for emax.

GP. Manacosts. Really?

Play things before you comment.

free poke all game.

I'm sorry, you think to believe that this is somehow important.

warpenguin5551 votes

Dude teemo is fucking useless

Chaos Milk Tea1 votes

Riot acknowledges his kit and fantasy are toxic. They plan to update him in the future, but he's not a priority right now.

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