Can we give Zed treatment for Ahri

blfUvZ8Ybu·Mar 28, 2016·3 votes·502 views

Zed nerfs;

Zed Living Shadow (W) Cooldown increased to 22/20/18/16/14 from 18/17/16/15/14 Bonus ad increase lowered to 4/8/12/16/20 from 5/10/15/20/25

But Ahri has still 53% win rate and 14% pick rate after charm bugfix.Moreover 66% win rate for pro players. http://probuilds.net/champions/details/Ahri

Zed only 58% win rate for pro players. http://probuilds.net/champions/details/Zed

Also Ahri is bigger problem than Zed.Higher win and pick rate.But true.Sells skins, female champion etc.

You know.That nerf didn't budge her winrate at all. it didn't have nearly as much as an impact as people thought it would. problem with ahri isn't her charm. The problem is the absurd mobility from her q and ult. Either nerf the movespeed early game on her Q or increase the ult CD.

Classic Riot things.

8 Comments

Very Hard EngageMar 29, 20162 votes

the difference being zed actually kills your carry, while ahri waits for a second charm. and lands a second rotation of skill shots. OK.

ahri = utility and usefulness

zed = raw tilt machine

teleport > dash

blfUvZ8YbuMar 29, 20161 votes

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the difference being zed actually kills your carry, while ahri waits for a second charm. and lands a second rotation of skill shots. OK.

ahri = utility and usefulness

zed = raw tilt machine

teleport > dash

This isn't excuse.Oh you're Ahri main.This defense is normal.

Very Hard EngageMar 29, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=t85lTAZz,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-03-29T01:59:10.116+0000)

This isn't excuse.Oh you're Ahri main.This defense is normal.

brb with actual scaling ratios, cuz 100% bonus AD is average. and actual skill shots where you only hit one target, and actually miss slow moving abilities where prediction is required.

if you wanna build full needlessly large items on ahri, be my guest, see how fast you destroy your mana pool.

blfUvZ8YbuMar 29, 20161 votes

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brb with actual scaling ratios, cuz 100% bonus AD is average. and actual skill shots where you only hit one target, and actually miss slow moving abilities where prediction is required.

if you wanna build full needlessly large items on ahri, be my quest, see how fast you destroy your mana pool.

Again bad excuse.Mana issues are valid for all champions.

Pika310Mar 29, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=t85lTAZz,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-29T17:32:05.072+0000)

Again bad excuse.Mana issues are valid for all champions.

Aatrox Akali DrMundo Gnar Katarina Garen LeeSin Mordekaiser Shyvana Shen Renekton Riven Rumble Rengar 0 RekSai Tryndamere Zac Yasuo Vladimir Kennen

It's so true! Every time I see any of these champions, they're always out of mana!

Very Hard EngageMar 29, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=t85lTAZz,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-29T17:32:05.072+0000)

Again bad excuse.Mana issues are valid for all champions.

ooooooohhhhhhhh

and you're telling me you have 100% accuracy and wont screw your team over when you miss your first rotation and suddenly can no longer do anything at all in an extended team fight? and you're backing for mana and leaving your team out to dry.

not even bjergsen rushes item 1058

he builds item 1056 item 3114 -> item 3165 , or double d's into item 3001 when he wants pen/defense.

a full AP build on ap champs makes them a valid wave clear with one or two abilities. it doesnt actually help them in a team fight. a second rotation is far more valuable.

mages cant just rush item 1052 like a zed can build item 1036