Why no real Fiora nerfs?

blfUvZ8Ybu··38 votes·1,848 views

But Azir, Viktor took hard nerfs because of pro scene.

Again double standard.

Riot balance team protects their favourite champs.

Riot's explanation; ''We're not looking to take Fiora out of the arena for good, so we're focused on lowering her strength in two ways''

Yes double standard.

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Dealth10 votes

She got nerfed last patch don't know what you're talking about

blfUvZ8Ybu3 votes

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She got nerfed last patch don't know what you're talking about

This nerf isn't sensible.Small nerf maybe buff?

She is still stupidly strong.

This nerf is very small.Not enough.

InHaruhiWeTrust8 votes

sigh.... more fiora Q.Q http://gph.is/1VifYk4

Dominick Destine5 votes

I tend to agree that Fiora needs a bit more nerfing.

But Zed has taken no nerfs and he's way more broken.

Leeerzeichen1 votes

He got nerfed in one of the last patches.

Dominick Destine2 votes

Zed? you are wrong.

His last change was a buff.

Leeerzeichen3 votes

I don't know how you can consider this a buff: Stored damage reduced to 25 / 35 / 45% from 30 / 40 / 50%.

Dominick Destine1 votes

I stand corrected.

I was wrong.... I had forgotten about that 'nerf'... it was so small that it left my memory almost instantly (That's what she said).

Subject 54 votes

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EcchiOtakuTM4 votes

Because fiora is balanced even in the pro scene she's beatable when good. Don't see any issues with a below 50% win rate champ who isn't even garunteed to win any fight....

Dasdi968 votes

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Because fiora is balanced even in the pro scene she's beatable when good. Don't see any issues with a below 50% win rate champ who isn't even garunteed to win any fight....

Meanwhile in NA LCS.

Abyssphere3 votes

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Meanwhile in NA LCS.

Meanwhile in every other LCS. Her win rate in NA LCS is a complete coincidence, it's not replicated anywhere else and therefore means nothing.

blfUvZ8Ybu4 votes

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Because fiora is balanced even in the pro scene she's beatable when good. Don't see any issues with a below 50% win rate champ who isn't even garunteed to win any fight....

Wait.

Viktor and Azir unbeatable?

16-4 Fiora 16-5 Viktor this season.

No pick Azir.

Also Azir had 55% win rate last season.

EcchiOtakuTM5 votes

Azir was overnerfed. Viktor was nerfed due to a fire and forget waveclear tool but should have been compensated elsewhere.

They'll fix a few bugs and buff azir in the future soon anyways.

But there's no need to nerf fiora at all.

blfUvZ8Ybu4 votes

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Azir was overnerfed. Viktor was nerfed due to a fire and forget waveclear tool but should have been compensated elsewhere.

They'll fix a few bugs and buff azir in the future soon anyways.

But there's no need to nerf fiora at all.

Buff Azir? Link?

But I said very true.Double standard?

You think? Agree or disagree?

Also Fiora was so strong since Worlds.Enough please.She needs real nerfs.

EcchiOtakuTM2 votes

I don't agree with double standard because not all champs who do well in one point do well in others. Azir/Viktor have a heavy amount of AoE pressure and playmaking CC with siege while fiora only has single target attack which hurt but can easily be dealt with. Yes her parry can outplay a lot of things but she's still subject to heavy harass and poke + can't affect more than 1 target at a time. And champs who have heavy damaging skills and a skill CC counter her heavily because she has to choose whether to parry the CC or the damage.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I don't agree with double standard because not all champs who do well in one point do well in others. Azir/Viktor have a heavy amount of AoE pressure and playmaking CC with siege while fiora only has single target attack which hurt but can easily be dealt with. Yes her parry can outplay a lot of things but she's still subject to heavy harass and poke + can't affect more than 1 target at a time. And champs who have heavy damaging skills and a skill CC counter her heavily because she has to choose whether to parry the CC or the damage.

Riot's explanation; ''We're not looking to take Fiora out of the arena for good, so we're focused on lowering her strength in two ways''

Yes double standard.

Look please.Double standard.

But Azir is dead for competitive or soloq.

EcchiOtakuTM2 votes

Azir needs buffs:

W- Soldiers apply on-hit effects

E- Change the HP scaling to AP for shield

That'd definitely bring him back, however might break him i'm unsure. Hopefully it wouldn't break.

HighGoonDarius3 votes

Fiora needs the nerfs but her items are worse yi and akali are glass cannons (like fiora) but cause of the retarded juggernaut update they can build tank and keep there damage item 3053 item 3742 item 3748 FUCK THESE ITEMS

PixTron3 votes

Because Riot is full of people with autism, can you not tell?

(note that some of these were from S5) item 3124 item 1415 XinZhao Zed Rengar Tryndamere Garen Darius Quinn Graves Volibear Nerfing Gangplank every 10 seconds when he doesn't even have a 50% winrate

Phenyxs2 votes

The nerf to Viktor was so stupid. I loved playing him and am good with him. But now he sits on the bench. I have several time put on 700 ap and he isn't a threat unless you get a ks. Fiora isn't a threat for me. She can be if fed hard but shut her down early she has hard time catching up. She is a champ that will get there's but not one I worry about.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

It wasn't stupid he has huge siege power with his fire and forget skill which also had waveclear. The main issue is they didn't give him compensation buffs and left him hard nerfed.

Bisaknosp2 votes

i would like it if they would nerf her base dmg and buff her scaling so she has to build mor dmg items this would hurt her early-mid game though.. very hard idk personally i dont think there is much to do with fiora except making her tank build not so viable anymore

Dunkrius2g2 votes

Pick and choose which nerfs she deserves. I feel that her Q needs nerfs just how Darius got the same.

Increase the mana costs just how Riot did to Darius to her Q. 20 / 25 / 30 / 35 / 40 MANA -> 30/35/40/45/50 MANA

Reduce 60% cdr when hitting a Q on a champion to 30%, let it only be 60% once it hits a vital.

Fiora does not get 60% cdr on her Q by simply hitting a minion, it will actually be 30% instead

Nerf the living hell out of Riposte by attack speed reduction by levels. 26% lv 1 /32% lv 2 / 38% lv 3 / 44% lv 4/ 50% lv 5 as opposed to 50% lv 1

Increase Ult's Mana Cost by 100/100/100 to 100/125/150

Reduce attack speed scaling from 3.2% per level to 2-2.5% per level.

Reduce Base Movement speed from 345 to 340.

Reduce Modified damage from E to 120%/140%/160%/180%/200% instead of 140 / 155 / 170 / 185 / 200% 」

It's honestly not that hard to just pick on of this and send her win rate below 50%

EcchiOtakuTM2 votes

Her win rate is below 50%.... NA is just overreacting..... Her play rate is just average too unlike those above a 10% play rate and above 52% win rates.....

qetzel1 votes

Viktor and Azir were given a lot of time before they got major nerfs. They were given smaller nerfs at first - just like Fiora is getting now.

Lord Azır2 votes

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Viktor and Azir were given a lot of time before they got major nerfs. They were given smaller nerfs at first - just like Fiora is getting now.

A lot of time? Azir was only played for 2 months during summer then he was nerfed to the ground. Fiora has been strong since before worlds over half a year ago.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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A lot of time? Azir was only played for 2 months during summer then he was nerfed to the ground. Fiora has been strong since before worlds over half a year ago.

TRUE.

So double standard.Moreover Fiora destroyed soloq.Still 30%-40% ban rate.

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