Classic Riot logic.Strange competitive nerfs.
Azir has 47% win rate Plat+.
Ahri 54%.
Also this nerf is ridiculous.
After this nerf, Azir is walking ward.
Other point Azir's win rate increased.Because new jungle items and Rageblade.
Probably 38% win rate inc.
Ereldra4 votesFirst of all, the one thing has nothing to do with the other. If you want a nerf to Ahri, one thing, but that doesn't mean, an Azir Nerf is wrong. Two completely different champions, that have nothing to do with eachother. Secondly, Azir is Pick-Ban in competetive play, and has been for quite a while now. I'm pretty sure to remember, that, when Ahri and Lux were played in the LCS, you used it everytime as an argument, that these champions had to be nerfed. Although they were not even played that much. Well, Azir has a 90.2 Pick/Banrate at MSI, with 8 Bans and 28 times played, which makes him the fith highest together with Kindred, and only Ryze, Lucian, Maokai and Ekko having higher numbers. (Incidentally, every single one of this champions is also recieving nerfs in this PBE-Patch.. one could almost assume, that there is a pattern) According to your own, earlier argumentation, beeing played that much in Pro-Play is an indicator of a too strong character, that needs a nerf.
blfUvZ8Ybu2 votesFirst of all, the one thing has nothing to do with the other. If you want a nerf to Ahri, one thing, but that doesn't mean, an Azir Nerf is wrong. Two completely different champions, that have nothing to do with eachother. Secondly, Azir is Pick-Ban in competetive play, and has been for quite a while now. I'm pretty sure to remember, that, when Ahri and Lux were played in the LCS, you used it everytime as an argument, that these champions had to be nerfed. Well, Azir has a 90.2 Pick/Banrate at MSI, with 8 Bans and 28 times played, which makes him the fith highest together with Kindred, and only Ryze, Lucian, Maokai and Ekko having higher numbers. (Incidentally, every single of this champions is also recieving nerfs in this PBE-Patch.. one could almost assume, that there is a pattern) According to your own, earlier argumentation, beeing played that much in Pro-Play is an indicator of a too strong character, that needs a nerf.
Wooow.Your argument only competitive.Ok ok!
Ahri and Lux didn't take real nerfs.Only small nerfs but this nerf?
Anyway Riot hates some champions.
Ereldra4 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tGk2e0Jl,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-05-17T21:52:18.284+0000)
Wooow.Your argument only competitive.Ok ok!
90.2% Pick-Banrate. Sounds good enough of an argument to me. Feel free to explain, why a champion that gets either played or picked in 9 out of 10 games is not to strong and should not recieve a nerf. Not that I actually expect you to do that, since I've never seen you even trying to reasonably argue with someone, but well.. ^^
blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes90.2% Pick-Banrate. Sounds good enough of an argument to me. Feel free to explain, why a champion that gets either played or picked in 9 out of 10 games is not to strong and should not recieve a nerf. Not that I actually expect you to do that, since I've never seen you even trying to reasonably argue with someone, but well.. ^^
Also Sivir 90% Pick-Ban rate.Also Lb? But where is nerf?
Also Sivir 52% win rate for soloq. Azir 49%.
Riot's priority.
Zed 75% ban rate Azir 25%.
Riot's priority.
THE RlVER KlNG3 votesThat statistic is true for one event, and the only reason pros pick him is bc he's sortve safe and has decent laning.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesThat statistic is true for one event, and the only reason pros pick him is bc he's sortve safe and has decent laning.
Decent laning?
Ereldra3 votesThat statistic isn't even true......
I'm refering to MSI... as stated in the former post. Azir is Pick-Ban in Pro Play, and is, alongside the other champions with over 90% Pick-Ban at MSI, recieving nerfs. http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2016_Mid-Season_Invitational/Statistics/Champions Haven't gone through all games to count manually, but if you think, the numbers are wrong, feel free to correct it.
THE RlVER KlNG2 votesNo for a sec I thought you were talking about Ahri. Changed it.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesNo for a sec I thought you were talking about Ahri. Changed it.
I compared and answered other people.
SeargentAnus3 votesHe's a great control mage who deals a ton of DPS. Taliyah will likely be pick/ban since she has very similar strengths/weaknesses.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesHe's a great control mage who deals a ton of DPS. Taliyah will likely be pick/ban since she has very similar strengths/weaknesses.
He isn't mobile mage and he isn't burst damage and he has counterplay and he has 48-49% win rate and he has only 10% play rate and he has 44% win rate with 1-5 games.
SeargentAnus2 votesHe has decent burst and mobility. He just brings a lot of utility and control which is good for team play.
stealthfox944 votesWhen has riot ever ballanced anything around win rates?
blfUvZ8Ybu2 votesWhen has riot ever ballanced anything around win rates?
True.Waifu champions, special champions, sell skins.
I forgot.
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Bisaknosp4 votesi like your reasoning
Muh wInReyd hiYer MucH oPi
thats all i can see xD
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes
Emmy Cha0s4 votesI'm sorry that an Ahri stole your lunch money, but fact is she hasn't been good since they nerfed her about 5 separate times as "compensation" for losing DFG. Then she's received like 3 more nerfs since. Rito hates and unjustifiably discriminates against Ahri just as much as you do.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes54% win rate and Rito hates? Hahahaha.
Also DFG and 60% win rate is normal according to you.
Other absurdity.
Buff Jax please2 votesDelusional Ahri fangirls like you crack me up.
Guy Fox Teemo3 votesAzir is meant to have a low win rate as he's insanely harder to play then ahri, but the nerfs are to massive. (Nerf Item and HUGE to gut to ult almost useless)
blfUvZ8Ybu4 votes[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tGk2e0Jl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-17T21:17:46.593+0000)
Azir is meant to have a low win rate as he's insanely harder to play then ahri, but the nerfs are to massive. (Nerf Item and HUGE to gut to ult almost useless)
Meanwhile 125+ games Azir 55% win rate Ahri 56%.
THE RlVER KlNG3 votesPeople keep saying his winrate is low because he takes skill. I agree he takes skill but yall have to realize this is in Plat+ ranked games, where anyone who ends up playing Azir in a ranked game will know what they're doing. He's a hypercarry, and useful in pro play, to be sure, but this nerf comes out of nowhere and is ridiculous.
Spoofghoul2 votesexactly.
hell i would point out that azir has a lowish skillfloor
a high skill ceiling but one that can be reached wwith plenty of prectice, people should play him for 20 games then realize he isnt nearly as hard as they used to claim
FailedEXE3 votes[deleted]
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesDon't cry salty Ahri main.Probably B.(you know your elo)
FailedEXE3 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tGk2e0Jl,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-05-17T23:31:45.846+0000)
Don't cry salty Ahri main.Probably B.(you know your elo)
The only one that is crying is you. You are one of the most obnoxious shit posters I have ever seen who dwells on one champion.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesOr you salty.You and your insult kid :)
Bisaknosp4 votesIKR xD he calls everyone an ahri main and azir hater xDDD
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesIKR xD he calls everyone an ahri main and azir hater xDDD
54% is normal.Bronze logic.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votestbh azir is probably the best apc in the game.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votestbh azir is probably the best apc in the game.
Potentially champion but isn't op and doesn't need nerf.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesok so I do the nerf is a bit hard. i think the nerf he needs is to make him. just a tiny little bit less fraustrating to lane against since he outscales almost everyone in the mid lane. he doesn't need that great of an early game for such a champion with a ridiculous late game but i do agree the ult nerf is harsh. idk make his ult knock you back only once like wukongs.
Revali2 votes
some bird doesn't outscale me
or me
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesyeah but one is melee that isnt that great ap and one has a fairly harmless early game
Astôlfo3 votesThat most people can't even play well, uhuh.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesi am not good enough to play azir. i literally bought him since i started but i dont enjoy play him. and i can't play him. hes imo the hardest champion in the game to play. but once you do learn how to hes pretty damn strong.