Everytime someone or I try to start a buff Darius thread, it gets downvoted to oblivion.

IsIsGankedParis··6 votes·819 views

"He can be tanky and still deal a lot of damage!" Nasus can do the same thing.

"He has a true damage nuke" Cho'Gath doesn't?

"He was the reason top lane wasn't fun" I don't recall him having 0 weaknesses, I guess the current top lane meta of ranged cancer is more fun eh?

All we Darius players want is 1 simple buff that is a nerf revert: His full resetting ult on kill.

"But 20 seconds is more than enough time!" Darius players use their ult even if the target is at 10 hp because of how awesome it is, they also use it to secure kills then go gank other lanes(Jungle Darius). Darius players are more or less afraid to ever use their ult because of how long the cooldown is and 20 seconds is NOT enough.

We know how you say the old resetting ult was toxic but through discussions we have formed a compromise: Have it fully reset on kill but the ult CANNOT be cast on the same person for 120/100/80 seconds, cdr reduces the cooldown.

Think of Yasuo's E, you can't dash infinitely to a person in seconds or it would be stupid, that's why there is a cooldown for how soon you use it on a person(Yasuo E is 4-6 seconds, can't remember).

What this change does is not only allow Darius to dunk when he pleases, but it makes it so he doesn't have wasted ults anymore and he can roam without worry of whether or not he should use his ult. Jungle Darius can now gank mid, use his ult, then go gank top or bot and his ult would still be up, is this really such a bad compromise?

Please for the love of all that is good please don't come into this thread saying Darius is op or that he is fine, he isn't. He's like Olaf and Garen, in a terrible spot.

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kanacho4 votes

Nasus requires a substantial amount of farm particularly with his Q to be of ANY use late-game. You can shut down Darius, and he can come back and be still annoying late game to your squishies and the lot during a team fight.

Cho'gath cannot use his ultimate 5 times in a row unlike Darius (which is more than enough reason to justify a tiny 20 second CD).

IsIsGankedParis4 votes

Darius was made to win early but he falls off very hard late game. He is the ONLY bruiser in the game with no natural tankiness or sustain, having 2 more armor than someone else doesn't count.

You can shut Darius down but he is useless, if he manages to make it to your squishies late game and dunk them you have bigger problems than Darius, he is one of the easiest champs to kite in the entire game.

kanacho1 votes

But how then does that justify buffing him tremendously? He's fine where he is, and he doesn't need to change. According to the roles you told me Darius is meant to fulfill, I can easily agree with you that he fulfills those roles even now.

1011001110003 votes

The first two random points of your argument just argued that Darius is really strong because he combines the strong points of two different champions.

I can understand why you'd want the buff, but it's not absolutely imperative that he gets it either. Maybe, instead of a full reset, just set it on a 5-8 sec cd.

Hayaishi2 votes

No because he's a champion that bullies every melee champion in the game. He's virtually impossible to trade against, atleast Nasus can be bullied and has to wait for late game to be a juggernaut and Cho has to farm stacks with his true damage nuke that doesn't reset.

Also he gets free armor pen and AS debuff, YEAH let's give him more free stats so when he snowballs now he's also unkillable.

dunk is my life1 votes

No because he's a champion that bullies every melee champion in the game. He's virtually impossible to trade against, atleast Nasus can be bullied and has to wait for late game to be a juggernaut and Cho has to farm stacks with his true damage nuke that doesn't reset.

Also he gets free armor pen and AS debuff, YEAH let's give him more free stats so when he snowballs now he's also unkillable.

so is all ranged

DarthSpectrum1 votes

Don't scoop to their level.

We are better than this.

ceaselessphantom1 votes

We know how you say the old resetting ult was toxic but through discussions we have formed a compromise: Have it fully reset on kill but the ult CANNOT be cast on the same person for 120/100/80 seconds, cdr reduces the cooldown.

This sounds okay. The issue I heard with his ult is that it lets him kill the laner as soon as they return so as long as that issue is not present I do not think it will be a big issue.

ItsStout1 votes

Thing about Darius is that the way his kit works, if he's buffed he's OP, if he's nerfed he's UP. He's hard to balance and needs a rework.

NightAdder1 votes

Because he doesn't need a buff. He is strong the meta just favors his counter play at but even then you can wrek people if you have patience

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