@Riot Guinsoo's Rageblade

Meeks011··3 votes·592 views

Don't remove it like you removed Revive, Sword of the Divine, etc. It is one of my favorite items. It has great synergy with AP champions built AD or AD champions built AP. Some examples are Ekko, Fizz, Xin Zhao, Tryndamere, Kassadin, Elise, Irelia, etc. or anyone who can scale with both AD and AP and uses autoattacks.

To anyone who says it is weak, it's actually 194% gold efficient with both passives up and gives the second most attack speed in the game. I may be Bronze but I have had a lot of success with this item nonetheless.

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Count Buffon2 votes

Hybrid itemization has been kept shackled for a long time. It's pretty sad. The real problem is that there is no Deathcap or IE for hybrid builds. Literally the only way to scale is item 3042 item 3003 item 3027, and that takes way too long and is super risky.

Currently, the only safe hybrids are bruisers. item 3078 item 3124 item 3146 item 1001 and tank items, because you've already scaled as much as you're going to, now start tanking.

My personal take is to give Kayle's old passive (AD and AP scale off of each other by X% and Y%) and make it an item built out of item 3134 item 3136. It wouldn't need %penetration on top of that. Dual flat penetration is perhaps acceptable as a trade-off for having a mix of damage types that is hard to counter in a one-dimensional way.

Rageblade is kind of fun on Akali, but I haven't tried it outside of ARAM.

One thing that really bothers me about item 3146 is that the active doesn't scale with bonus AD. It only scales with AP. They're not even trying to hide the fact that it's an AP-only item with somewhat usable AD that sometimes Akali, Kayle, and Katarina might build sometimes until they finish destroying it. With item 3153 running amok, Gunblade is in a dire place and desperately in need of some fresh synergies or at the very least a small buff. Not even Jax builds Gunblade anymore because of this monster item.

For all of Rito's song and dance about strategic diversity, AP/AD hybrid builds are chronically and horribly neglected and shunned, even if they would offer a unique blend of burst and DPS that otherwise is hard to find.

LilxPaprika1 votes

the applications for rageblade are endless. so much potential. its just there as a tease atm. if i may direct your attention to this blog i cover one way it can be made to shine https://mocklolpatchnotes.wordpress.com/ https://mocklolpatchnotes.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/ragebladehexblade-stack-new.jpg

I think the important thing with such items is that they be gated in terms of max stats/cost (including worth of passive/active) 2300 to 2800 gold. triforce is close to this and we all know how great it is. two triforce like items would be disasterous.

I can see this find a place as the hyrbid's version of item 3142. I you gave item 3142 any more stats and i'd be op. But as is you don't have regrets for having picked it up.

RedCyclone1 votes

They should just make it into the AP version of the new AD item coming out next patch The one that gives you 25% more AD and a shield when you get to low HP

Lost In Time1 votes

First, if you're bronze, you couldn't have had that much success.

Secondly, gold-efficiency doesn't mean shit if you can't use it effectively or other items are more SLOT efficient. Some items with greater gold-efficiency would be any gold-generation item (basically become free over time) or stacking items like Mejai/Sword. Doesn't mean they're all good for all situation based on gold-efficiency alone.

Lastly, it's a shit item. Rework or remove; it's current iteration is ineffective.

Trebbi1 votes

It honestly might be good on the new morde where his Q scales both from AP and AD and he needs some attack speed to more reliably finish off his Q, but anywhere else I dont really see the item shine because it has pretty shit stats on face value.

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