Like I am a fed assassin 
, I dives to their backline and goes onto this 
, she just RQ and walk away, there is literally nothing I can do to kill her(unless the vayne is retarded). What is the counterplay to that stupid 1 second stealth that I can't counter by sacrificing an item slot?
BluePolarizer4 votesJust 1 shot her. 
The Deckowner2 votesrengar khazix sure, zed not really.
Neko Caitlyn2 votesPress E?
The Deckowner1 votesI can't target her with E during the 1 second stealth.
Neko Caitlyn2 votesAnd shes not shooting you during that stealth either. So why are you dying?
The Deckowner2 votesshe got 4 teammates?
Reaper Soraka1 votesfrost queens claim before you dive her. once the ghost starts tracking her it'll give vision even if she goes invis.
Other than that, idk.
Mysticman891 votesShe's only invis for 1 second, assuming she doesn't fight back. In which case great, you've removed what is likely their biggest damage source for 1 second, which is a long time in a team fight. Alternatively, it's 'only' 1 second, so as soon as she pops back out of invisibility you burst her to bits, as vayne is still quite squishy even if she does tons of damage. Or she just completely managed to run away, in which case you've removed their biggest damage from the teamfight entirely.
You can still hit her while invis with skillshots if you can predict where she's headed too.
Avienal1 votesShe's only invis for 1 second, assuming she doesn't fight back. In which case great, you've removed what is likely their biggest damage source for 1 second, which is a long time in a team fight. Alternatively, it's 'only' 1 second, so as soon as she pops back out of invisibility you burst her to bits, as vayne is still quite squishy even if she does tons of damage. Or she just completely managed to run away, in which case you've removed their biggest damage from the teamfight entirely.
You can still hit her while invis with skillshots if you can predict where she's headed too.
Apparently you never heard of the BS vayne combo, its called Q stealth tumble, walk away a little bit to your max range then proceed to auto shoot them and throw a E at them if they try to get closer or perform any ability that might include a channel or combo so you can just middle finger them before they let the combo go off.
In 's case, thats usually easily broadcasted by his Q throw, his W 'baseball bat motion' or even his E tumble.
Vayne's major problem is her kit is just a all'around destroyer of anything and armor or max health can't stop her, Q empowers and can Crit, W shreds max health thru true damage, all she really has to do for the 'minimum' is keep in range and auto poke you once every 3 seconds to keep the mark going while minimizing your ability to damage her in any way.
Not even 'counting' a Vayne whose so natural with her they literally 'clown' with you by being close up, maybe keep a mental clock on your cool downs and just Q tumble whenever those abilities up (or just tumble every 2 seconds because BS low 30 mana cost and 2 second cool down at max rank), Hell at times it feels like her passive might as well work all the time then just towards enemy champions, because once she rushes statik shiv, phantom dancer or both, she just takes golf swings at mini crits and her passive still lets her high health chunk you.
If you run from her she can easily catch back up to you, if you chase her she just orb walk pokes you and Q tumbles whenever you get close.
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Seriously, unless you surprise jump a Vayne or have 10~20% more move speed then the vayne you will likely never have a chance to take her out in a straight up fight because phantom dancer and/or statikk shiv will provide her with enough move speed to walk out of the majority of skill shot spots unless she is in the direct center of a larger AoE skill shot or similar abilities that can fk her royally, if she wasn't able to just use Q to tumble escape out of it too.
Literally the only way is to use point and click or large sized roots/stuns or just plain one shot her to kill her these days against a average vayne player i'd say.
Avienal1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=swFdlfxF,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-12-03T03:50:25.690+0000)
Like I am a fed assassin
Oh lets not even get started on Vayne's entire kit rotation, i just ended up going against a 3vs3 match and the enemy team consisted of 
, 
and . I have dealt with shitty super scumbag champion comps in 3vs3, 5vs5, weekly events and even had them pop up in ARAM somehow, but this is definitely one of the best examples of pure scumbag teams that the enemy team must of been grouped together for this BS combo. Doesn't help that they were heckling the entire match and saying that 'lulz Lux is so much more brokenz'.
That's basically when the 'ease of play' and 'overpowered' bs argument kicks off where Lux at least has restrictions on where they are suppose to sit at, those ones just go beyond extremes on what they can bring.
As for Vayne, she really needs to get alot of things trimmed off of her, because even with her so called 'smaller range' she has LITERALLY every tool to kill any kind of champion outside of ones that are much more fed then she is, which is a miracle that can only occur if the vayne's team is full of a bunch of retards.
Her Q being a tumble, having a low mana cost of 30, and being on a 2 FREAKING second at max rank and scales from 30% extra damage from 'TOTAL AD', which goes as high as 70% TOTAL AD. CAN ALSO APPLY TO CRITICAL HITS, resets her damn auto attack timer, lets her move a short distance, apply the damage to turrets too and that R empowerement gives it a 1 second stealth is literally one of the reasons i believe why people stopped stacking her W in favor of her Q.
Literally just by stacking Q first she can high damage poke anyone and spam that empower damage and even dodge many kinds of skill shots with just a simple button press.
Her W does not even need to be stacked first and just with rank 1 alone she can blast 6% of a target's MAX health(12% at max rank which becomes even more BS into late game cause of it) every 3rd shot, because its a passive too that means she gets away with one ability with no mana cost, which means she is in a drastically low mana cost. Which last i checked, how many marksmen have abilities as passives that cost no mana and damage spike them strong? Never the less, combined with her Q empowers and tumbles, she can run away juke and orb walk you down with her W passives hp blasting that completely ignores armor and magic resist because its freakin true damage, and it freakin deals max health, i it was current health then it would be nice but since its max health and true damage, she's like a Yasuo with mobility and EZ mode damage massacre bringing, even if Yasuo got his R finally nerfed.
E does not even need to have anything besides a single point into it for that one instance of running away, denying a enemy diving on top of you if you can't use Q just yet to just jump out of the way or just a good old middle finger to stun a target to a wall for 1.5 seconds. It applying the W stack is just a extra boon to slap you in the face with her bulge, meaning she has a easy way to quick detonate a mark after autoing you once, Q then auto you again with the reset then E to proc the mark and have a perfect opp to run away even if you did not hit a wall.
Really all i can say on R is that all it really would need is to empower her Q, not grant any AD bonus, not grant anything on her passive and it would likely still be broken as it is in that state, the only way i can ever see it to be a reasonable ability is they remove the Q's stealth or nerf the R into the ground without coming out with any BS on 'compensating' her kit. Any champion who can be super broken and have no actual weak game point and especially anyone can pick up and turn into retarded beasts once they know how to use her reasonably is just plain stupid, especially before itemization is included where they just become like Tank Ekko and Tank Yasuo before they got actual nerfs.
Rito please~ Hard Nerf the BS champions already.
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Phyuq Yiu1 votesOnly vayne can kill vayne. People have no clue that she maxes Q now and goes the yasuo build and actually 1 shots you. Best assassin in the game imo.