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What I think is the most unhealthy set of champs in the game.

Get Ogre Here··1 votes·738 views

Disclaimer: This isn't meant to be a rant post, just my opinion and some things to back up my opinion.

Aatrox DrMundo Darius Nasus Garen Illaoi Renekton Singed (There are more like Urgot, WW, Yorick, etc. But I rarely see them get to the state of these champs.)

The one thing all these champs have in common is they're massive raid boss champions that, when ahead, completely take over the game. What I believe the reason for this to be is that for the most part they have no real mobility, apart from some small dashes (with the exception of Renekton but fuck him). Therefore, they rely on CC (Nasus wither, Aatrox knock ups, Darius pull, Singed fling, etc.) and move speed (Mundo ult, Garen Q, Singed ult, etc.) And worst of all, they have to be super tanky and super damagy to be relevant.

Many of these champions can at least 1v3 late game if they're ahead, simply because they become unkillable and they still do massive damage. It's really hard to outplay them simply because they just have no outplay potential in running around smacking you, and it's just unhealthy for that reason in my opinion.

I know a lot of people are gonna disagree with me so feel free to reply with your most unhealthy class, some examples, and why. c:

9 Comments

Jamaree1 votes

Their outplay is their lack of mobility

Get Ogre Here1 votes

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Their outplay is their lack of mobility

Generally champs that will be kiting/dashing around them with mobility will also have their damage negated by their massive resistances so it kinda ends up being pointless.

Jamaree4 votes

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Generally champs that will be kiting/dashing around them with mobility will also have their damage negated by their massive resistances so it kinda ends up being pointless.

It isn’t pointless though, they get to take so much damage because they have to work to get in, only fair they get to do damage after getting in.

Beatrice falls3 votes

Singed is immobile

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Their lack of mobility is almost always compensated for the incredibly high base MS almost every single melee in the game has, or with heavy CC that has about the same range as the average auto.

It's physically impossible to outrun a Singed unless you're using some kind of massive speed-boost ultimate (Think Kled, Sion, or Quinn). It's just not possible to outrun him otherwise.

Nasus's W is about the same range as most autos, and he has way too much resistances to be taken down by spells.

All of these champions have reasonable access to item 3800, which means lmfao gl getting away from them if they see you.

Their "lack of mobility" is a myth or completely negated. Lux is an immobile champion with no real way to negate her immobility. Juggernauts? Lmao every single one has a way to get to you, and it's usually unavoidable.

AnAggravatedPimp1 votes

Illaoi has no real dash, her W is an empowered auto but requires a target, and no consistent CC, her E is a blockable skillshot that is negated by fighting her or moving around for 12 seconds.

She legitimately only has damage. A metric fuck ton of it, but only when you let the fight be on her terms. If your team clumps up and she gets a 5 man ult then yeah, you'll lose. But if she tries that and gets stunned or freaking blinded she loses the ability to do anything but stand there and exist as the threat of a threat.

Basically let's thank God that Illaoi doesn't hav her old "lasts one minute" E anymore. That was opressive.

JonneeG1 votes

Can't speak for the other champs, but being nasus against an organized team is awful.

In teamfights, you just get chain cc'd for days. Sure, wither + E helps your carry do damage, but compared to teamfighting champs, his damage and cc is basically meaningless. (eg, Malph, Irelia)

In a splitpush without teleport up, you're straight up letting your team 4v5. Even with teleport up, there's no guarantee that your team will be alive by the time you can get there (with teamfights lasting a few seconds).

A decent number of champs are able to kite you from beyond your wither range, but those are the exceptions. These guys all have auto attacks that are above your wither range. KogMaw Tristana Jinx Caitlyn

If you're saying Nasus should ALSO be weak in a 1v1 or 1v2 when he's not being kited, then what is he actually good at?

There's an argumennt that he's unhealthy becasue of his stat check nature in 1vX scenarios, but that doesn't seem to be the op's point.

Vlada Cut1 votes

Huh. No mention of my waifu Camille the game dictator. :V

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