You completely gutted our W and RW, and now we have 0 burst potential so we need the extra damage instead of having to wait 1.5 seconds to assassinate someone when people like 
go around the map instakilling people.
Lucian Waifu24 votesJust spam 
she'll never be nerfed and probably is cancerous with that same build
Fisher No Chains3 votesAnd she also does everything LeBlanc does, but better.
As a die hard LB main, I don't really know why I keep playing a mediocre champion when a similar and overpowered one is there, waiting for me.
It's just that... No champ is my LB. ;_;
GreatWhiteNorth2 votesThis isn't true. She was nerfed indirectly when they increased the movement speed of all champions.
As someone who has been playing since 2011, I have seen ahri go through periods where people would report you for playing a bad champ (ahri).
Fisher No Chains10 votesThere's a small (maybe not really small but still) difference between "she WILL never be nerfed" and "she WAS nerfed".
Ahri is the Janna of midlane. High pick rate, high win rate for almost 2 years now, and never nerfed as much as other midlaners. Yet she's considered somehow "balanced" and never touched.
I'm fine with Ahri being a common pick though, just because she doesn't feel shit to play against. Still 10x better than Fizz or Ekko.
Yosuke Apperu2 votesThere's a small (maybe not really small but still) difference between "she WILL never be nerfed" and "she WAS nerfed".
Ahri is the Janna of midlane. High pick rate, high win rate for almost 2 years now, and never nerfed as much as other midlaners. Yet she's considered somehow "balanced" and never touched.
I'm fine with Ahri being a common pick though, just because she doesn't feel shit to play against. Still 10x better than Fizz or Ekko.
Both ahri and Janna have been nerfed though lol. It's the identities of their kits that make them so good. Making ahri a "kite mage" made her stronger than when she was an "assassin" I'mo the dumb amount of free damage from masteries is partially to blame.
Fisher No Chains14 votesLast Ahri "nerf" was that charm fix that doesn't interrupt dashes anymore.
Last "real" nerf was in 5.16, when they slightly reduced the healing from her passive.
I mean, that's how Ahri has been nerfed. I can't even call those "nerfs" compared to how LB's kit was gutted (after a stupid rework).
NineTailedMystic2 votesCharm nerf was pretty impactful tho.
Edit: I am legitimately curious as to why I got downvoted for my comments in this thread. Nothing I said was wrong.
Melledoneus5 votesAgainst like 3 mid lane matchups.
NineTailedMystic2 votesIt ain't just about the laning match ups. It denied offensive dashes like Diana, LeBlanc, Nidalee, Kha'zix, Rengar, etc. Prevented defensive ones like Tristana, Lucian, etc.
Imagine how much people would moan about how safe she'd be if she still stopped dashes like they moan now.
Melledoneus8 votesThen good riddance, I day. If fear and taunt don't stop dashes, charm should not either.
Also, using the word moan when describing anything Ahri-related is quite fitting and hilarious.
Sraeg20131 votesAs a Diana deuter-main Ahri's Charm was the least of my worries playing against her. Especially with the Lunar Rush cooldown refund change like 2 seasons ago.
I mean, I'd basically need to ult into an incoming Charm for it to have any effect. Otherwise I'd end up grabbing Ahri's butt before she's able to finish the casting animation.
NineTailedMystic1 votesIf the Ahri could predict well, it'd neuter Diana's all-in by stopping her first dash and denying the second. Unless that specified refund change made it so that even if interrupted she still gets the reset. Still neutered her all-ins though.
It definitely gave an out to being hit by Diana's Q though, if you were good enough.
Sraeg20131 votesMerely casting Lunar Rush on a target affected by Moonlight refunds the cooldown.
Arhkadian1 votesLast Ahri "nerf" was that charm fix that doesn't interrupt dashes anymore.
Last "real" nerf was in 5.16, when they slightly reduced the healing from her passive.
I mean, that's how Ahri has been nerfed. I can't even call those "nerfs" compared to how LB's kit was gutted (after a stupid rework)
Go Back A Little Farther when they Removed dfg, and that 20% Bonus On Her e.
Fisher No Chains3 votesDFG removal nerfed other champions more than Ahri.
Also, she got some damage buffs and the movspeed on Q that everyone complains about. Some champs weren't even touched after DFG was gone, lol.
Arhkadian1 votesDFG removal nerfed other champions more than Ahri.
Also, she got some damage buffs and the movspeed on Q that everyone complains about. Some champs weren't even touched after DFG was gone, lol.
She Was Given Compensation Because She Was Stupidly Weak at the time.
Fisher No Chains2 votesMaybe you forgot that DFG removal AND Ahri compensations were in the same patch.
She had no time to be weak because the 2 things came out together.
Sraeg20133 votesLol no.
The day before DFG removal and the day before she was compensated (it was on the very same day) she had winrate of about 52% and pickrate of about 13%.
That's the polar opposite of "stupidly weak".
Poske1 votesPlz dont build ahri that way
Chembaron Yamada13 votesYou completely gutted our W and RW, and now we have 0 burst potential so we need the extra damage instead of having to wait 1.5 seconds to assassinate someone [...]
These 1,5 seconds are meant as the counterplay for her assassination pattern. You are basically saying "It's bad that Leblanc has counterplay and that's the reason we were looking for a build to remove exactly that".
That is not how it should be....
Sraeg20132 votesAs a player who loved to play against (As a Syndra main LB was always one of the easiest matchups) the pre-rework LeBlanc (the one from Season 3 too) I was sceptic, but when I played LeBlanc after the Assassin Update I simply felt sad for LB players.
That delay is very forced and not fun for either the player nor the enemy.
Basically it means that the current version of LeBlanc will end up in one of 3 states balance-wise:
Who is Taliyah5 votesYeah and imagine they didn't nerf her W and RW. Leblanc would do even MORE damage with that build. [zombie-brand-mindblown]
Azureee12 votesImagine they nerfed her E and passive damage instead of her W or maybe idk removed the waveclear nobody asked for instead? Like that was all they needed to do. LB with W doing damage and having to be maxed is fun for the LB player and healthier for the game than Q max. [zombie-brand-mindblown]
GayFluffyUnicorn3 votesExactly. All that was wrong about lb (well besides her feeling clunking and shitty compared to the old one) was that instead of QW chunk you for half your health level 2 she now WQ chunks you for half your health... Or just hit E and chunks you. Remove waveclear on Q, reduce early dmg on her passive proccs. Boom. Balanced lb. Give her a bit more dmg on Q so she can decide if she wants waveclear and mobility on W or more raw dmg on Q.
Fisher No Chains4 votesExcept that Gunblade build would suck because of 0 mana sustain early, and you know if you max W first you'll need a lot of mana since it costs 110 at rank 5.
Personally, I hate Gunblade build since it changes the playstyle I liked when I started playing LB, but without the extra damage you hardly 100-0 a squishy... it really sucks to be forced to build something to make a champion work as intended.
And anyway, LB isn't the only stupid champ with Gunblade. Kata, and now Ahri abuse that stuff as well... Maybe, MAYBE the item itself is the problem.
Poske1 votesGunblade is the worst option of the revolver items for le bl only build when you have exactly enough gold to combine revolver into it (Like 2300 gold or so)
Le bl has more efficient winrate with other revolver upogrades
I have been building gunblade on katarina since ever its not really an abuse...
Gunblade on ahri is dogshit. You see people saw le bl building that and not knowing le bl has special interactionts with on hit items they though it would be gold efficient on them since both champions are mage assassins (ITS NOT good for her)
Nymzo1 votesWorse option for LB?
I'm pretty sure this 
doesn't synergize at all with her.
NineTailedMystic1 votesGunblade is a viable item for Ahri. It just has an awful build path for her. Additional sustain that gets dumb with her passive, 80 AP is good enough, 40 AD is a nice bonus, but the instant targeted burst on the active is so, so sweet.
SpecterVonBaren5 votesEh, don't see the big deal about the Gunblade build (In regards to people hating playing against it), when I started playing DFG was still a thing and was far FAR worse.
Azureee4 votesYep, the W nerfs made her even safer and have less counterplay.
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I HOPE i didnt get baited
Azureee2 votesMaxing a point and click and using gunblade to oneshot is so much more healthier RIGHT :)??????????????????????????????????????
Darkdemon6534 votesThat doesn't make any sense. If those items were good on LB, that means she could have built them before the nerfs and would have been even stronger.
The truth is those items suck on LB and there's a good reason she has never built them.
Rock MD8 votesThat doesn't make any sense. If those items were good on LB, that means she could have built them before the nerfs and would have been even stronger.
The truth is those items suck on LB and there's a good reason she has never built them.
Uh...?
You haven't been watching competitive play in the past 2 months or so have you?
Ekko Project2 votesUh...?
You haven't been watching competitive play in the past 2 months or so have you?
You say that like everyone watches the lcs
Melledoneus2 votesWell, they should before making statements like "this is not broken, nobody buys it."
Poske2 votesUh...?
Maybe he hasnt been watching competitive play but he is right 100% right and you are downvoting him for no reason
The only reason Le bl players are building this way is because IN the same patch they gutted her distortion they gave her an ability to proc on hit items with clone like sheen,revolver,lichbane (Undocumented change)
Why is that change undocumented? Well in the same patch they nerfed ap shaco hard and to compensate they gave him the same interaction (Also ap ratio on passive) Which is why trinity is so good on him (It broke ad shaco actually) and so that revolver lichbane and ap shaco dont die out). For those curious yes his clone could proc old herald to
**Those item sucked on her because there were no that specific interaction before distortion nerfs ** Well I still built Gunblade ocassionaly as 4th item when i recalled with 3400 gold but for the most part they sucked
Fisher No Chains3 votesThe reason she didn't build Gunblade before is that she didn't need the extra damage or slow that the item provides. Instead, getting mana or CDR was way better since those stats really helped with W/E long cds.
I mean, if a champion with 0 AD scaling is wasting a lot of gold on AD, there's something wrong with either the champ or the item.
Poske1 votesLe bl players which rush gunblade every game are ... not even amaters they are noobs
I explained interactions above
MunchCrunchLunch3 votesrengar and soloking. his damage was near halved. he insta kills nobody anymore.
PePsiLemoNN3 votesSo she wasn't cancerous without those items? lol
Dracocrash1 votesshe was!
Azureee2 votesNah but I spectate a LB game and see this https://webmshare.com/YJXDA , wasn't this what people complained about before the rework? LOL, Q max is cancer, W max is the way forward to balance her right
Sanctimonious1 votesAnything can burst at 6/1 lol.
Azureee2 votesThe point is people cried about Q>R doing half there health when LB was fed and now it one shots. Q>R WAS THE REASON SHE WAS REWORKED.
Poske2 votesRiot wanting to deliver on her deceiving fantasy was a reason they reworked perfectly fine and unique champion
Sanctimonious1 votesThat doesn't change a thing. A 6/1 champion with decent base damage, building items that compliment ratios should be able to melt most champions.
There shouldn't be a ton of counterplay to someone who has a shit ton more gold / XP on you.
Azureee1 votesYeah and that's why I don't see why people cried about her pre-rework. She was doing what she was meant to do.
Sanctimonious2 votesThese people are kind of insane. I hate her just as much as they do, but the logic just isn't there. i'd love to self indulge in this personal bias, but i really logically can't.
