Yasuo Windwall should not come out of him

koshkyra·Aug 30, 2017·168 votes·4,683 views

It should appear at the location its cast in instead of coming out of him.

Im so sick of Yasuos using their windwall two seconds late but still blocking an ability just because of this dumb animation.

94 Comments

KloqdqAug 30, 201711 votes

Just turn windwall into a single cast block like Fiora's riposte. It would still only block projectiles but make it the base size of windwall in front of him, like he is cutting the abilities in half. Then you don't have this stupid wall that is like 4 Yasuo's wide and it relay's completely on Yasuo's reaction time and their position.

SEKAIAug 31, 20171 votes

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Just turn windwall into a single cast block like Fiora's riposte. It would still only block projectiles but make it the base size of windwall in front of him, like he is cutting the abilities in half. Then you don't have this stupid wall that is like 4 Yasuo's wide and it relay's completely on Yasuo's reaction time and their position.

And it shouldn't be omnidirectional.

I'm all for the concept of Yasuo cutting projectiles in front of him with W. It makes far more sense than the current W anyway.

KloqdqAug 31, 20171 votes

Yeah. It would keep the skill aspect and core concept but it would only be in front of him. His blade would be the hitbox that blocks stuff. Could be a really fun way to fix yasuo while keeping that clutch reaction speed.

Hayaishi2Aug 30, 201710 votes

this is nitpicking. This is not what makes Yasuo bullshit.

koshkyraAug 30, 201759 votes

This is not what makes Yasuo bullshit.

Its definently part of the bs tho

SalronAug 30, 201710 votes

How is Yasuo supposed to block a point blank skillshot when dueling another melee then

DunkinNoobsAug 30, 20179 votes

The better question is how is he supposed to block point blank CC from champs like Ahri or Lux? He'd never be able to go onto those champs 1v1 if windwall didn't spawn inside his hitbox.

abca98Aug 30, 201719 votes

It's not like he had PLENTY of dashes to dodge skillshots or something. Even in lategame without minions waves he can just buy item 3139 and facetank the cc while murdering them anyway.

DunkinNoobsAug 30, 20175 votes

You can either dash onto the mage or you can dash to dodge skillshots. You can't do both. Of course you don't throw skillshots at Yasuo randomly when he's dashing around in a wave. That's laning against Yasuo 101. You wait for when he's dashing towards you and then nail him. The only reason this ever fails is because of wind wall. Baiting out the wall really isn't that hard is you're a smart mage player.

abca98Aug 30, 201714 votes

Except that if the Yasuo has half a brain he will save the wall for when he goes in so he can block Lux Q Ahri E and etc.

SqueyAug 30, 201714 votes

maybe it should require a full brain to play him then?

TheMesaAug 31, 20171 votes

Oh. I guess im not doing it right.

ZapMyHeartAug 30, 20176 votes

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You can either dash onto the mage or you can dash to dodge skillshots. You can't do both. Of course you don't throw skillshots at Yasuo randomly when he's dashing around in a wave. That's laning against Yasuo 101. You wait for when he's dashing towards you and then nail him. The only reason this ever fails is because of wind wall. Baiting out the wall really isn't that hard is you're a smart mage player.

Keeping that wall til the last second isn't that very hard for even the most stupid Yasuo player.

If a Yasuo dashes onto a mage, there's a high chance that it's in his favor and not the mage in question. Due to his shield, rapid stacking Q3 and a low ult cooldown, he could simply dash to the mage, spam Q until he gets the knock up and then ult to stick onto them. Panic wall when he sticks onto the mage and you're good to go against any CC that could potentially disrupt his onslaught.

Hayaishi2Aug 30, 20172 votes

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Keeping that wall til the last second isn't that very hard for even the most stupid Yasuo player.

If a Yasuo dashes onto a mage, there's a high chance that it's in his favor and not the mage in question. Due to his shield, rapid stacking Q3 and a low ult cooldown, he could simply dash to the mage, spam Q until he gets the knock up and then ult to stick onto them. Panic wall when he sticks onto the mage and you're good to go against any CC that could potentially disrupt his onslaught.

Why shouldn't he? He is meant to have advantage at melee range against mages/adcs anyways. You want to kill Yasuo? Pick a hero that dumpsters him melee, like Jax.

ReleñtlessAug 31, 20174 votes

One question about Yasuo's windwall... Why can he block Taliyah's wall? It's not useful that much but still, what the f***?

Yasuo > Taliyah

Mens Hair ClubAug 30, 20171 votes

but mages r oppressed by yasuo oppressor

koshkyraAug 30, 20175 votes

..he could sidestep their slow af abilities

AmazoXAug 30, 20173 votes

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..he could sidestep their slow af abilities

hahahah nice lie.

koshkyraAug 30, 20178 votes

Did you just try to imply that Luxs Q isnt slow?

AmazoXAug 30, 20173 votes

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Did you just try to imply that Luxs Q isnt slow?

Ahri abilities are not ''slow'' & you said ''their''

How is Yasuo supposed to block skill shots at point blank then? It would be the most clunky ability in the game.

koshkyraAug 30, 201712 votes

He isnt supposed to block point-blank skillshots.

DunkinNoobsAug 30, 20174 votes

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He isnt supposed to block point-blank skillshots.

He's not? That's news to me because blocking things like Lux Q or Trist ult at point blank range is an essential Yasuo skill and always has been.

However, I see that this has become yet another Yasuo QQ thread where a bunch of people that never play him exaggerate how easy and effective he is. Abandon all hope ye who enter here, at they say.

UnboundHadesAug 31, 20174 votes

How is that a skill it's one of the most unfair things to exist and a chimp can do it

KONO RUBICK DAAug 31, 20173 votes

who are you to decide what yasuo should do?

=???

a very bad nadoSep 5, 20171 votes

Asayake 5150glowAug 30, 20172 votes

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..he could sidestep their slow af abilities

At melee fucking range?

GuiboulouAug 30, 20175 votes

Melee midlaners that aren't Yasuo have to watch out for this thing called "a window of opportunity".

DunkinNoobsAug 30, 20172 votes

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Melee midlaners that aren't Yasuo have to watch out for this thing called "a window of opportunity".

If you think Yasuo can just dash in whenever he wants with no consequences, then you've never played Yasuo against someone that isn't a potato.

GuiboulouAug 31, 20172 votes

That isn't what I said at all. I said Yasuo would have to watch for windows of opportunities like other melees if his wall didn't come out of him, since you seemed to be saying he would never be able to go in.

DunkinNoobsAug 31, 20172 votes

He already does with the way the wall works now. The fact that you think he can just go in whenever betrays your ignorance.

GuiboulouAug 31, 20172 votes

I never ever said he can go in whenever. I think you're just really mad at the Yasuo hate and decided to take it out on me for no reason at all. I'm simply saying he would have the same capacity to go in on champions like Ahri or Lux that other melee champions do.

DunkinNoobsAug 31, 20172 votes

You sound exactly like every Yasuo whiner I've ever met so forgive me if I treat you like one.

GuiboulouAug 31, 20172 votes

English isn't my mother tongue, so forgive me if I can't get my point across as well as someone else could, but the only thing I ever meant was that he wouldn't be any more incapable of engaging fights with ranged CCers than any other squishy melee would with the proposed change. I don't think it's fair of you to say he'd never be able to. He'd just lose his counter-mage trait when in melee range.

SpecterVonBarenAug 31, 20173 votes

You say that like it's a bad thing.

DunkinNoobsAug 31, 20171 votes

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You say that like it's a bad thing.

I'd like to be able to lane against champs I'm supposed to counter.

UnboundHadesAug 31, 20174 votes

Counter isn't supposed to be free winext because u pressed w and deleted their combo

SpecterVonBarenAug 31, 20172 votes

You can still lane against them even if you aren't able to go all in on them with impunity any time you want.

DunkinNoobsAug 31, 20171 votes

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You can still lane against them even if you aren't able to go all in on them with impunity any time you want.

The moment you aren't a threat to all in a ranged champ as Yasuo, you don't get to farm anymore. Why? Because you are a melee only champ with no escape. A ranged champ that knows you can't kill them is just going to stand in your minions and beat the shit out of you for ever daring to walk up. This is also why freezing a lane against a Yasuo is so effective. If he can't go onto you without being in tower range, he effectively can't trade with you and you can zone him as hard as you want.

AhrisSep 1, 20173 votes

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The moment you aren't a threat to all in a ranged champ as Yasuo, you don't get to farm anymore. Why? Because you are a melee only champ with no escape. A ranged champ that knows you can't kill them is just going to stand in your minions and beat the shit out of you for ever daring to walk up. This is also why freezing a lane against a Yasuo is so effective. If he can't go onto you without being in tower range, he effectively can't trade with you and you can zone him as hard as you want.

Yasuo will always have kill potential even if he feeds in lane.

FilDaFunkAug 30, 20172 votes

It's not like he has dashes.

Bronze DemonAug 31, 20171 votes

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How is Yasuo supposed to block a point blank skillshot when dueling another melee then

hes meant to be anti ranged, not anti melee. if he let him self get PBed then he doesnt deserve a wind wall.

I Main SwainAug 31, 20177 votes

my problem is the fact that even if you use it the wrong way, if you do it at the right time it will still block the projectile. ive done it myself countless times where a jinx ult is coming at me and i panic w the complete opposite direction and it still blocks it

PePsiLemoNNAug 30, 20173 votes

He actually moves his sword very close to his body when casting windwall. Yasuo is trash right now anyway , how are people still complaining?

Also

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How is Yasuo supposed to block a point blank skillshot when dueling another melee then

UnboundHadesAug 30, 20177 votes

the wall spawns from inside his hitbox allowing his windwall to block even behind him when its cast just making it more bs

DuskDaUmbreonAug 31, 20171 votes

If he manages to block something coming from behind him, that actually takes more skill, since you have to time it within about .1 seconds of the skill shot hitting.

UnboundHadesAug 31, 20178 votes

yes because aiming the wrong way but blocking a skill shot is skill

DuskDaUmbreonAug 31, 20171 votes

You, instead having to time it within...what, 2 seconds? 4 seconds? Whatever. Instead of having multiple seconds to time it within, you have a mere tenth of a second.

UnboundHadesAug 31, 20173 votes

So aiming the wrong way is skill because of a shit hit box got it

DuskDaUmbreonAug 31, 20171 votes

Well. Which requires more skill?

Landing an ability within a 4 second window, or landing one within a .1 second window?

UnboundHadesAug 31, 20172 votes

so instead of actually aiming the right way u get a pass because of the hitbox and it isnt even close to .1 sec lmao the hitbox stays for around .25 seconds after cast