Ashe being nerfed way too fast

VDc0zCqe0w··4 votes·685 views

Her pickrate on pro play is not that huge and her winrate is even -50% i think, that nerf doesn't make any sense and it's simply overreacting to a problem that just doesn't exist in the first place.

If you're looking on a real problem, look at Kalista: nearly permapicked and with a good winrate.

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R1105 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Ashe

Winrate: 54% Play Rate: 21%

I think the nerfs are just fine. The nerfs remove an unintended strenght and reduce some base power of her volley to make her early weaker.

VDc0zCqe0w1 votes

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http://champion.gg/champion/Ashe

Winrate: 54% Play Rate: 21%

I think the nerfs are just fine. The nerfs remove an unintended strenght and reduce some base power of her volley to make her early weaker.

wich part of "her pickrate on PRO PLAY" didn't you understand?

R1104 votes

The game also needs to balanced for non-proplayers. Those kind of winrates+ pick rate is similar to Jinx pre-nerf if I remember correctly.

Lugg1 votes

Jinx definitely needed nerfed. Her early game was too strong for how insane her late game is.

R1101 votes

Definitely agree with that. I wasn't trying to say that Jinx didn't need any nerfs, now I'm wondering if I worded my post weirdly :o

Squarefighter2 votes

Except that competitive is .000001% of the game and balancing around only that would be exceedingly silly.

Godhri4 votes

Ashe main spotted. Lulz!

on a more serious note, I'm glad to hear they are nerfing her. She is all around too strong imo. Not only does she have massive burst with her Q, but she also has reliable poke, global vision utility, Global stun potential, perma crits to proc the mastery for more attack speed, and perma slow. For an adc, that is a lot of things to have.

VDc0zCqe0w1 votes

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Ashe main spotted. Lulz!

on a more serious note, I'm glad to hear they are nerfing her. She is all around too strong imo. Not only does she have massive burst with her Q, but she also has reliable poke, global vision utility, Global stun potential, perma crits to proc the mastery for more attack speed, and perma slow. For an adc, that is a lot of things to have.

i'm an Ashe main in fact lol

but still, i admit she's really strong in yoloQ because people are retarded and don't buy QSS/mikaels/don't use cleanse, but if they nerf her she won't be picked in competitive anymore (since she's not that picked anyways even now)

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

She can destroy all the adcs in the laning phase except Cait and Varus atm. The poke is too real.

atomicwit1 votes

Where did you get those winrate stats? Last time I checked high-ELO, she had the highest winrate in the game at 55% (yes, greater than Ryze's 51%). She also has 10x the pick-rate of Ryze (the one people love to complain about lately).

Anyway, the only nerf I'd make atm is to stop Q from applying on structures.

Xinotine1 votes

Nerfs are good. Her early is too good for ADC who scales quite well to lategame (thanks to her new steroid and utility she has).

Her late isn't touched otherwise but Q nerf.

Ashe has in my opinion pretty nice power curve, after nerfs she hopefully starts with decent early, and gains slowly power going to lategame. She doesn't have "godly" phase anywhere but also she hasn't really weak phases eithet. Idk but this is how she feels for me to play,

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