I noticed this when playing Gangplank but when I solo'd dragon, it wasn't taking any damage from my passive for some reason, same thing happened with Baron.
Darius can apply his passive on Dragon and Baron.
Twitch can as well.
Cass can poison both of them.
Why can't Gangplank?
Romans VI XXIII44 votesGood question, I have never noticed it before. That kinda saddens me :(
If i had to guess it would be because it also slows, and baron and drag are coded to be immune to CC, thus some where along the line it completely blocks out his passive because of the slow. Which should be fixed.
PerishSoftly23 votesit also slows, and baron and drag are coded to be immune to CC, thus some where along the line it completely blocks out his passive because of the slow.
This.
Which should be fixed.
Also this. Take my upvote.
Ice Weasel X2 votesGood question, I have never noticed it before. That kinda saddens me :(
If i had to guess it would be because it also slows, and baron and drag are coded to be immune to CC, thus some where along the line it completely blocks out his passive because of the slow. Which should be fixed.
Saw the title, immediately thought this. Other champs with CC tied to damaging abilities still do damage (I've stolen Dragon with MF and Leona ults, a friend stole Baron with a Janna Qnado), so this should definitely be addressed.
RiotMeddler64 votesYup, that'll be the problem. Debuffs have different types in spell scripts, and Dragon/Baron are set up to reject all the different crowd control types. In this case the logic for the DoT is included within the slow debuff file, which never gets applied to CC immune targets (that'll include Olaf and champions with Black Shield on them as well, not just Dragon/Baron) and as a result the DoT script never gets run. Normally we split damage and CC into different files to avoid this exact problem, looks like someone missed that with GP at some point though.
TLDR: Bug, we'll fix.
Joe Dredd17 votesYo, another bug you could look at is that machete doesn't actually grant health regen in combat with monsters. It grants health regen when attacked by monsters, so people who can cc camps like volibear are effectively gimping themselves out of health regen. fix pls
Kingsgrave10 votesYo, another bug you could look at is that machete doesn't actually grant health regen in combat with monsters. It grants health regen when attacked by monsters, so people who can cc camps like volibear are effectively gimping themselves out of health regen. fix pls
Yeah this effectively gives you no benefit when doing crab
Riot really needs to fix this
Joe Dredd7 votesor a least change to tool tip lol
Klatn Yelox2 votesPLEASE at least change the tooltip.
Cerbearus1 votesYou also don't get the regen when fighting dragon/baron
RiotRiot Reinboom6 votesInitially we wanted to avoid the health battery scenario of the machete line. That is:
Of those two issues, 1 isn't actually that big of a deal (the regen falls off pretty quickly) and 2 could be solved in other ways. We're looking into machete tweaks atm (nothing committed to yet) so we could wrap a change to "in combat with monsters" in there.
Mikayle1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Reinboom,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wdn0gbjF,comment-id=0000000200000002,timestamp=2015-03-04T21:31:26.386+0000)
Initially we wanted to avoid to avoid the health battery scenario of the machete line. That is:
- Drive shot by to regen. Hit the monster to trigger the combat and keep moving.
- Healing significantly off of rift scuttler, especially early game.
Of those two issues, 1 isn't actually that big of a deal (the regen falls off pretty quickly) and 2 could be solved in other ways. We're looking into machete tweaks atm (nothing committed to yet) so we could wrap a change to "in combat with monsters" in there.
Or make it so scuttler isn't a monster.
Make him a minion /nod.
Joe Dredd1 votesAlright thanks. At least I know it's like this for a reaosn and not by accident
General Veers2 votesKayle's Q does not apply the shred debuff to Dragon or Baron, probably for the same reason.
RiotMeddler7 votesDragon and Baron are Shred immune, so that one's deliberate (if it's not shredding CC immune targets like Olaf during his ult, Malphite when ulting etc that's a bug though).
General Veers1 votesMakes sense!
(I blame Heimerdinger for this :P)
gameipedia1 votesQuinn, that is all.
Amsun Thales1 votesSo Garen gets rid of GP's DoT along the slow when he Q's? Neat
Bodkins Odds1 votesSweet. Thanks Meddler. :D
Terchio1 votesSimilar issue, Viktor cannot stun Master Yi while ulting, as being slow-immune blocks charges from gathering against him. Since Master Yi's biggest counter is hard CC, I find it quite irritating that he can completely negate any instance of it, especially one as hard to proc as it is.
D2Vincent1 votesSpeaking of bugs of passives, any word on when Karthus's passive bug is gonna get fixed? (for y'all the don't know, during his passive, sometimes Karthus's Q goes on a 2 second cooldown.)
Koala Frenzy2 votesGoing with the same bug type, can you fix Yi so that he isn't immune to being squirreled by lulu in his ult? The spell has a slow in it, and he is immune to the entire thing. He should still be squirreled, but just be a squirrel that's not slow.
KingFree1 votesOn a slightly related note, does Sona's damage reduction from her Aria of Perseverance (w) Power Chord actually reduce Baron and Dragon's damage by 20%?
MrSexyHobo32 votesgotta pay for that lack of mobility
Incognonymous17 votesRiot hates GP.
/thread
Talamare14 votesDammit Riot!
Allow us to get Baron Drunk on Rum
Baron Perenolde10 votesAll the times I jungled with GP, I never noticed this. Huh. I hope Riot gives this a look so the pirate get a little love in the form of a QoL fix.
Darth Valer5 votesLOL I've been playing three games a day with gp on average in the last months and have never noticed that.
This issue had me wonder what if his passive will get to deal %health damage with the same stacking mechanism for enhanced jungling swagger when (and if T_T) he gets reworked.
LyraSona5 votesThe baron and dragon are definitely too big to have their BAC effected by the grog soaked shiv.
deadlychuck4 votesI also don't understand why
passive applies 
passive DOESNT apply
unless it's marked as the same reason, because it's coded as a CC with a damage effect attacked rather than a damage effect like brand.
Although at that point shouldn't 
and 
passives apply it when i believe (though i haven't actually tested) 
passive does.
Shinirup1 votesIt still makes me sad that shaco boxes do not apply such or any on hit effects, given Teemo shrooms do. Bought liandrees and morello a few times on ARAM as him due to his boxes being magic damage. Even if it would be OP, it could say on the skill that it doesn't apply any on hit effects. After all Teemos shrooms do.
MAGIC DAMAGE: 35 / 50 / 65 / 80 / 95 (+ 20% AP) MAXIMUM MAGIC DAMAGE: 315 / 450 / 585 / 720 / 855 (+ 180% AP)
Kalarepa3 votesSounds like a bug. GP doesn't make #lc$bigplays so I guess, Riot didn't even think about GP and possible bugs on him with SR rework.
qetzel17 votesTalon made LCSbig plays. Talon was nerfed. How do you respond to that?
Rinky Dinky15 votesOh shit.
You just rebelled against the lcs big plays circle jerk
Rip in peace my friend...
qetzel10 votesI am dying anyway (coughs weakly). Might as well do something positive before I go.
Rinky Dinky7 votesWhat a brave soul...
Orbv4 votesTalon prevented Zed and Leblanc LC$Big Plays. Not allowable
qetzel4 votesWhy was Kassadin nerfed? Why doesn't Riot buff Katarina for LCS play? Fiora makes "Big plays" - she even goes untargetable while dealing damage. Then there is Lucian - people said that he wasn't nerfed because of big plays? Why was he nerfed?
Why is Lulu allowed in a solo lane when she can't make big plays? Same with Morgana, except she is also allowed to support.
Tell me why there are so many exceptions, please.
junglerboy166 votesKassadin's #LC$BIGPLAYS consisted of being banned every game, and then being really annoying, and then just popping squishes with button clicks. He also looked really ugly and didn't have to juggle 7 skills, 2 passives, and a pet/alternate form, so he got the nerf bat.
DeusVult6 votesTalon only had situational mobility
he couldn't outplay to the level of 
etc.
So he was nerfed
qetzel1 votesAnd Kassadin?
Budupops1 voteswhere is the flashynesss in kassadin
Slaaneshine1 votesR, E, Q, Stab. Repeat. There is no flashyness, just him having an equivalent of flash on a low cooldown.
qetzel2 votesA flash on a low cooldown isn't flashy?
Partholonian3 votesRiven, too. Remember when she was commonly played in pro games? More exciting to watch than Lee Sin, and yet, nerfed. It's almost like Riot actually does balance for balance, and Lee/Zed are "ignored" because they aren't really as OP as people think they are.
OhOkYea1 votesSame reason karma can't shield turrets while most others can.
Audiomancy8 votesUh...Janna can shield turrets. How is that 'most others'?
skkkrt6 votesSame reason karma can't shield turrets while most others can.
LOL Janna is the only champion in League that can shield a turret.
OhOkYea1 voteswrong
junglerboy162 votesName one other champion who can, and mind you, get some proof to back it up.
WeFlyNoLie2 votesThe best case they could make is Braum can shield turrets from ranged auto attacks with his wall, but that's about it.
