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This is how funny riot is with balance in this game

HeartPalpitation·5/23/2019, 5:51:24 AM·4 votes·3,173 views

So master yi just got a small rework to his skills and his winrate went up a little bit. Sure master yi is a pain in low elo because people don't build comps to counter him or anything, i know this because im in low gold and see him pop off alot due to lack of cc. But he is a lot less oppressive in higher elo game games.

Master Yi Attack speed lowered from .733 to .679 Alpha Strike (Q) repeat strike damage lowered from 25% to 15%

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/MasterYi/

Meanwhile: https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Aatrox/

Champions like aatrox, who has much more durable, less counter-able kit gets to sit at the exact same winrate, higher ban rate and higher pick rate than this apparently "over powered" master yi, is untouched by nerfs? Can someone please tell me there is a logical reason for things like this?

note: i am not a master yi main or anything close to it so i have no bias toward this champion i also don't like him but this is just an example i wanted to share.

8 Comments

Luigi Tortellini5/23/2019, 7:52:39 PM2 votes

Fuck yi. I enjoy not losing games just because we don't have enough point and click damage.

Nyarlathοtep5/23/2019, 9:37:15 AM2 votes

less counter-able kit

Did you just say that aatrox is less counterable than YI? Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Aatrox q has a huge delay and early on has a fair amount of cd (14 sec). Said q also has sweetspots that you can take to your advantage, like hugging aatrox during his q1.

His w is a relatively slow moving medium range skillshot that can be blocked by minions. Its damage is non existent, its cd is extremely high early on (26 where fiora's w is 24). Its raison d'etre is to help you land q.

His e is among the lowest dashes in the game. Until late game that shit cant be spammed because of its cd. Like w its sole existance is to help land q.

His r is the classic raid mode ulti just like nasus and renekton have. But unlike them his is more suited for teamfights. Its counterplay? Try to avoid dying when his ulti is up, cc lock him, if the situation allows it focus him during his ulti to bring him down fast, just how you would handle a fed nasus when he tries to teamfight. Even with his increased healing, he wont survive long as long as he heals off of tanks.

Speaking of healing, his passive might give him a good sustain in lane. But he pays it with no hp regen (+0.6 hp at level 1) and generally low base stats.

And lastly are the classic counterplay, armour and gw.

XJ999999999999995/23/2019, 6:04:57 AM2 votes

screw yi. point click 60% damage reduction when you are about to kill him and recharges cooldowns into dead, cant click on him.

also screw the taric + yi boosters. i just saw a thread on how its still a thing and im starting to think that me banning yi every game for the past 2 months has been the reason for multiple and repeat dodges. disgusting.

aatrox feels fair, hes fine imo

Darkdemon6535/23/2019, 10:50:13 PM2 votes

I'm confident they'll hit Aatrox soon.

Tin Obliterates5/23/2019, 9:27:43 PM1 votes

Stopped taking this seriously as soon as you said Yi is more counterable than Aatrox.

Spooks and Null5/23/2019, 10:22:22 AM1 votes

Aatrox's winrate in sub-platinum, accross all regions except korea, is less than 50. https://u.gg/lol/champions/aatrox/build

Aatrox has a much much much more counterable kit than yi. His damage is all skillshots, skillshots within skillshots mind you, he just got reworked so his ban/pick rate are artificially greater. Yi isn't a very good champion for diamond+ because hes a soloqueue stomper, while aatrox has more team utility, so ofc hes going to be picked more in a serious environemnt.

Winrate going up in low elo, when the changes to yi were intended to, by riot's admission, nerf him at low elo and buff him at high elo, is alarming, so theyre likely pulling back on some power because hes become another low elo nightmare again.

Contrast this with Aatrox, who has been one of the worst soloq champions in the entire game for months, and has just recieved a MAJOR kit update in addition to a winrate jump from "god awful" to "acceptable" in any elo below platinum. His WR above platinum is higher than average, but his lower elo winrates are still pretty mediocre. Source: https://u.gg/lol/champions/aatrox/build

TL;DR: Yi was CHANGED to address his power at low elo, and his weakness at high elo. The changes did the reverse, so riot is backpedalling. Aatrox will likely be tweaked soon, but he's been in such a terrible state until 9.9, that they're probably cutting hi ma little slack, where as Yi has always been soloq viable for years.

Jonesybones5/23/2019, 10:54:30 PM1 votes

I wish riot would just balance the game around low elo and then have the balance be normalized at a certain rank. Like I main support and only really play blitz. And I feel support is fucking useless in low elo. They got a yi? well guess he is gonna wrekc your whole team because noone dog piles him. Got a hecarim? gues your adc will never get peels and he will be a broken fed pony. Got maplhite? guess your entire team is gonna group up and just let maphite pop. you. FUCK SUPPORTING. SUPPORT ROLE IS A GARBAGE ROLE FOR SOLOQ.