Think the last round of cait/jhin buffs were not really needed and are now pushing them over the edge of being a bit too strong. both winrates/pick/ban rates have skyrocketed and i feel they are a bit over tuned now and it sucks because jhin being my go to adc is now incredibly contested and most people were doing fine with him before the buffs.
REPEAT AFTER ME
do, not, buff adc , and then nerf S tier adc
they tried to force cait in the meta when ezreal was x5 more overpowered than any adc, and then finally nerfed ezreal after he sold enough skins terrbile plan
Jhin buffs? Not needed? Those buffs were insanely minor and nowhere near major or over-tuned in any capacity, and he needed them desperately. I honestly haven't noticed much of a difference with the buffs anyway. His W feels the same to me and I don't feel like I'm doing more damage.
He's only playable because we're abusing a certain build(as is the norm with him). A few Jhin mains I know(incredibly dedicated ones at that) have actually moved away from playing him because he's in such terrible shape.
I know the boards are all on Jhin's dick usually but I really hate when he's meta. He's a classic example of a lane bully who doesn't fall off. As a Tristana Main, I find him really hard to deal with. He out ranges me, his fourth shot is a massive zoning tool, and he synergizes so well with so many of the popular supports(AKA mage supports like Lux, Zyra, Brand). Its oppressive to play against a good Jhin and its depressing knowing that he'll destroy you in lane and just keep scaling. Even if you do win lane, as long as he doesn't die a ton and he keeps up in farm, he will inherently out scale you. It's impossible for him not to. He gets AD off everything he buys. How do you keep up with that kind of scaling?
I'm not saying he's broken. But I am saying that I dread Jhin metas. I dread them and hate them the most.
Cait and Jhin, are annoying, but they pale when compared to Jinx or Kai'sa or Tristana.
Tbh Cait needs her burst reduced and increased DPS. Jhin on the other hand, I find him quite mediocre as a champion alone. Where he excels is the utility he brings to the team. Not in need of buff, not in need of nerfs
so what about jinx then? she has had a higher win rate and a higher pick rate than both jhin and cait. Cait shot up to a 53.4% win rate right after these buffs were released from 50.1% win rate at the end of last patch cycle. Her win rate has been falling every day to where it is now at 51.17%. Her history with with how the first +2 AD buff went it raised her win rate by .7%. If history is consistent she will still fall in win rate to about a 50.8%. At her current win rate shes not even a top 5 win rate ADC. The top 5 ADC by winrate are Jinx(52.97%), Ashe(52.22%), Jhin(51.97%), MF(51.84%), and Twitch (51.65%).
So why is cait a problem but not jinx? Better win rate and better pick rate. Jinx only in the last few patches only got a higher ban rate.
They gotta set the bar high for the new ADC that's gonna be extra-broken, so they don't have to nerf them as hard.
Caitlyn and Jhin metas are tied with Twitch/Tristana meta in terms of boring and unfun to play.
you can nerf cait, Jhins fine. Jhin should be the strongest crit champ in the game tbh, hes based off it and ngl his 4th shot should do more damage with more crit that he has tbh. (the balance would be nerfing it while he has low crit chance tho etc etc.. not trying to make him seem like he should be OP but it would make sense since he only has 4 shots, and his 4th shot is a big punisher if he gets it off )
They just need to remove the movement speed aspect of Jhins kit so that he can't crit you for a shitload and then just run away casually with Fleet of Footwork and his passive! He's almost a poke champ with his 4th shot
Riot: Our improves to caitlyn dindt went as we wanted, so we are going to base more base dmg to her to 90-92.
As an adc main i personal think this is way to much, even tho im a caitlyn player (but mostly jhin, caitlyn and ezreal) i personal think tthis is an absurd.
But somehow adc is still an useless lane, i would consider buffing kogmaw mobility.
Jinx should get some nerfs too, that shitty adc that i have to ban 53% win rate.
Jinx have an absurd scale into mid late game (essencial on ie and rh)
Jhin needed the buffs because compared to other ADC's he is weak until he gets 2 IE and even then, the enemy adc will be 3 items while he will have 2 IE so, he even then will probably lose. He needs changes (like giving him less speed for more crit dmg) so, I am not completely against them. Cait on the other hand...oh boy
Dw once they see the pros pick Cait theyll do what they did in s7
/s... I hope????
prestige edition btw
no wonder they get buffs without any reason
money = prestige ediiton
XD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA JHIN GOOD HAHAHA BUT okey silver players striking again
jhin got 2 AD, you got to be joking right? LOL
+.25 seconds on root and 2 ad and you're complaining that jhin is op? I can agree with caitlyn being op, but jhin kinda needed the buffs. He's pretty irrelevant when most meta adcs are the close range burst+sustained damage. Jhin has burst and ultility.
