Lulu is strong in a meta where people die in 2 seconds

Free point and click damage so you can deal even more damage with nearly zero retaliation, which requires very little thought.

And they get away with it, while being heavily rewarded as well. Perfectly okay.

At least it's not a case of Lux. She doesn't even require 3 procs. Just Q + AA or E + AA is enough to proc Thunderlords.

No I'm Diamond and I agree that her burst at lv 2/3 (whenever you take Glitterlance) with Tlords is pretty ridiculous.

And I'm the one playing Lulu, not saltily playing against her.

I don't think she's op otherwise though. I agree with OP, actually.

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And honestly by themselves her abilities are fine but together is there a reason to choose anyone over her? Polymorph, knockup on her ult, a shield, a health steroid for her ally, an attack speed steroid for her ally, very long range, an intense slow, and respectable damage.

I'd say a key weakness is she can only peel from at most 2 things at once due to having targeted abilities, while Janna can peel from 5 people. But in a meta where usually 2 things are diving, Lulu can handle the job just fine. Her other key weakness is she's NOT built for engage. But with a few good frontliners and how strong tanks are in meta right now, that's not a problem either.

Though Lulu is one of the best scouts in the game. No other champion can easily run off clearing wards, checking brushes with an easily dispensable tool (though range isn't the best especially if people have hooks), get out alive if gets caught, AND give herself an attackspeed buff to clear wards faster.

I will even throw in how she can click a button to make stealth pointless, how she can trash "peel the X comps" with a click of a button, make taking objectives even faster, and even her ability to kite as support. She does so much but unfortunately, all these are fairly overlooked and people only saw her peeling and poking ability. These weren't the strongest, so people asked for buffs.

I think it's balanced a bit by the fact that she has to choose whether to use her W or E on an ally or enemy, so obviously listing out her strengths makes her sound better than she is.

Ideally, that should be the very essence of how Lulu gets success from: choosing the right targets to buff/debuff at the right times. But you see, that's not happening. People just go full poke, then full peel, and not get punished for not using their spells wisely. And that's the problem.

But that's still a lot of fucking strengths lol. Lulu is strong in ANY meta. Yes she's strong against assassins but if that was why she was being picked then Janna would be the one people are complaining about. Imagine if Janna could poke ._.

I'll add on to this. If Lulu really focuses on utilizing how well she "shuffles" her spells, all these nerfs in the past actually do nothing to Lulu support. The most noticeable is the Q waveclear that may fuck up her ADC's farming patterns, and the W duration nerf that only gave an incentive to max it ASAP.

So? What does the performance of a character in the lowest ranks mean? They're the lowest ranks for a reason. Yi is OP there. That's a fact. Give me upvotes because I stated a fact!

Yes yes I'm sure it's the extra damage Pix does that everyone is crying about

Not to mention you main Jax and Nasus so of course you're all upset when a 3'10 yordle keeps your winrate at 50%. c;

NEW LESS LANCE MORE GLITTER: Damage now falls to 70% against targets hit beyond the first

B U F F S

Never said buffs never happened, but buffs aren't why she's strong. If we were in a tank meta, no one would be crying.