Everyone is just saying that you are supposed to counter Yi with CC

Yeah that's the best way to do it, and it guarantees you will hit him since his Alpha is down.

Except the problem is that he can just run up to you and start attacking you and doesn't need his Alpha to engage, so you likely took a ton of damage and are about to die so you fire your CC at him ... and he Alphas. That's what happens in Plat/Diamond sadly :|

Its a bad habit to assume your enemy is bad.

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Just because someone else has the freedom to drop damage doesn't mean Yi is doing anything useful. He has zero utility so if he isn't doing damage then it's practically 4v5, he might as well not be there.

Hard cc have cool downs. Using your cc on him, along with the amount of time it takes to kill him, means the rest of his team has also killed someone on your team, and since your cc is on cool down for a short while they'll immediately focus another target and your team will be unable to do anything other than slowing them and dealing damage to them. You can't slow him since he's immune to it, and using anything other than stuns/knock ups means he can just meditate through the damage. Due to being built bruiser along with Q and W he's also difficult for a single person to burst him as well.

Since Yi is jungling, it means his team has a minimum of three damage threats, and this is assuming the top/support picks a tanky/utility based champion. Although, most of the popular tops are tanky damage threats so his team will most likely have 4 threats+the support. Realistically you'll never be able to dedicate most of the hard cc your team has on just Yi without being punished for it. He also can just wait for the bruiser on his team to be the immediate threat that needs to be cced then go in during the cool down. If your team chooses not to use your cc to peel the bruiser and wait for Yi they'll just kill your carry instead of Yi doing it. So, Yi indirectly killed your carry by simply posing as an extreme threat.

His items and kit mitigate some of the counterplay: -Qss removes a cc forcing you to use another -Q allows him to dodge delayed cc -Ult makes him immune to attack speed slows -His E, passive, and items allow him to bypass tanks building armor -Q, W, and items make it so you can't burst him

Then there's the fact most champions can't ever 1v1 him even when he's behind a bit, which entirely removes split pushing as an option for your team because you can't 1v1 or run away from the Yi. Assuming the Yi and his team isn't bad you are forced to pick around the enemy team having a Yi and then forced to play around it. You have to constantly do anything to deny as much as you can from him since he's a ticking time bomb and then you're forced to play aram because if anyone is isolated they'll die to him. Even regarding game time, his win rate is around and above 50% for the entire time, so it's not like he even loses early on average either. There are only 5 junglers that even have a positive win rate against Yi, 3 of them are also devour junglers, the other is currently extremely strong and may be nerfed (Udyr) and then there's Skarner.

Honestly, I only ever see a Yi losing when either the Yi is bad, or his team lost really hard to the point he couldn't do anything. If him or his team doesn't fall behind he'll generally win. I don't even play Yi well and I've won every game other than 2 out of 12 or so games and the 2 that I lost my team had fed pretty hard. When the Yi is on the opposing team, I usually win and it's always because his team lost to the point he wasn't allowed to enter his jungle. Even the people who think Yi is fine state this by the whole "You allowed Yi to buy items so you deserve to lose" comments.

Another thing to be noted, Yi's Q is bugged where he still takes damage/dies during it, so he's still very successful despite having a bug that harms his performance.

How did I do that? I didn't burn anything....

If your team only has one CC ability, you have bigger issues.

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Congrats you just blew your CC on someone else besides Yi. Now Yi is just going to fuck your team.

Morgana's shield breaks to magic damage, not just CC.

Yi isn't trash at high elo. Tank Yi has done wonders for Yi in high elo.

u fucking monster