i dont get it, what are you guys doing? tank yasuo is literally cancer and you instead nerf eve some more? FUCK OFF.
Edit: it has come to my attention that the eve nerf was reverted back to % health and its now a CD buff. fact remains the same, yas isnt nerfed.
Elite4Runner13 votesStill shocked that people think nerfing Yasuo's damage will make him less likely to build tank. smh
Redaga3 votesthe main problem with yasuo is his double Critic. that made all his AA retarded strong that translate into a retarded sustain from Life Steal. remove his double critic is the easiest way. he has 2 passives. and double critic dont even fit his lore.
Pika Fox2 votesThe passive is what largely forces him to build non-tank.
Vistha Kai1 votesElaborate.
Junkο1 votesIf you build tank items, you gain 0 crit chance, which means you are wasting a part of his kit.
Too bad that the TF changes allow him to cap AS really early, give him a fair enough of damage, and turn him into a 20% CDR windwall ult CC bot late game so he can build full tank and still contribute.
Vistha Kai1 votesHe can't cap AS with just TF and certainly can't do it early.
Junkο1 votesTF + AS runes + AS per level will cap your AS at like level 11. Which is basically a few levels after you get TF.
Vistha Kai1 votesWith Trinity Force, AS runes, AS/level and the Fury mastery, Yasuo gains 59.3% AS at level 18. He gains 3.2% AS per level. He needs 56% to hit the Steel Tempest CDR cap.
That's exactly level 17.
Junkο1 votesLol? Yasuo gains 54% bonus attack speed from levels alone at level 18. A normal Yasuo rune page will have at least 13.5% AS, some go for an entire 27%. A mastery gives 4%. Trinity Force gives 40% AS.
At level 17 he will way overcap the Q cap.
Vistha Kai1 votesYes, assuming he has nine AS marks (15.3% AS from runes) at level 17 he will overcap the CD cap... by 0.1% attack speed.
With AS quints, he will reach the cap at level 18 instead with 1.5% AS that goes over the cap.
Junkο2 votesExcept the current Yasuo build has 0% crit chance into it.
TF as a whole is a problem, Frozen Mallet is a bit more minor offender that has it's own issues as some champions like Yasuo, Gnar and Teemo abuse the fuck out of it.
WoonStruck6 votesHis armor pen now only affects crits. Fix'd.
Elite4Runner3 votesHis armor pen now only affects crits. Fix'd.
Doesn't really matter when it only takes 2 items to reach 100% crit
ProfDrDeath5 votesExcept that tank Yasuo is now completely dead.
Dengeden1 votesNot with PD he isn't.
Aatrox Mid 1v58 votesNot with PD he isn't.
the tank yasuo build looks something like this:
with 0 crit chance. with that build he can pretty much do the same exact damage as the crit yasuo build to someone like an adc but be tanky as hell at the same time
Dengeden1 votesHe might adapt his build for it, PD is a pseudo tank item.
Junkο1 votesI guess Vayne building PD is suddenly a tank now.
Dengeden1 votesGraves building it alongside LS and HP items apparently is.
Junkο2 votesGraves gets really tanky thanks to his E which can give him up to 120 armor and MR. The more you know.
Dengeden1 votesAnd Yasuo has his passive shield and windwall...
Junkο1 votesHis passive lasts 1 second and his Windwall can simply be waited out to easily kill him after. If you outrange Yasuo, especially with some CC he really can't do anything without Windwall.
Dengeden1 votesTrue but killing a Yasuo with 2-3 tank items when you have to wait out both of those is kinda hard, innit?
IcyPepper1 votesPD is a pseudo tank item.
Wouldn't that just be bruiser?
Vistha Kai2 voteswith that build he can pretty much do the same exact damage as the crit yasuo build
I lol'd.
WoonStruck1 votesNon-crit builds are the issue.
It means he's going to be building crit.
Scuttle Lover5 votesBecause Ekko does literally the same thing but better. Triforce > full tank
GULAG 4 U4 votesTanksuo is the problem, not yasuo.
Keevalroy5 votesYasuo has been a problem since his creation.
Veltox6 votesKeevalroy2 votesAccurate. Thank you.
GULAG 4 U4 votesHis meme was posted against you, not in your favor. Also "yasuo has been a problem since his creation" he has counterplay and isn't half as bad as playing against leblanc, fizz or even aatrox, so quit bitching learn how to play against him. Yes he's annoying, but he isn't as bad as what you say. Full ad yasuo which is the "normal" build is at ~49% right now and tanksuo is at 54, can ya'll stop saying bs?
Keevalroy5 votesI realize it was against me and I was being sarcastic...
I don't give a shit how much counterplay he has, his release was a mistake. Not only is he a cancerous abomination himself, he set the standard for every subsequent champion to have a million passives, obnoxious mobility, and random stats shoved into their kits all for the sake of uniqueness. Tank Yasuo was brought about because season 6 is awful and introduced clearly terrible additions, but Riot has been blinded to common sense - that doesn't make the normal Yasuo any better.
But how much can I trigger you? His designer is also an egotistical moron - you wanna defend CertainlyT as well after all of the damage he's caused with not just Yasuo, but his lineup and future Riot champion works as well since devs have been influenced by him?
Kompressed3 voteslol dumb idiot if yasuo was broken he would have high winrate and he would be nerfed. riot is WAY better at understanding league of legends then you EVER will. yeah thats right, you lose her bud. we are the dominant, you are the cowering fool, you shall sit down and do as you are told. yasuo is NOT broken, NOT a mistake, he is a good champ that is balanced.
i want to make it very clear that YOU are the weaker and I AM the dominant over you. any comment you try to make to this response will be ignored, as whatever you say is false and void of meaning. again: ANY COMMENT YOU MAKE WILL BE IGNORED, AND DECLARED NULL AND VOID.
Kiokami3 votesHis meme was posted against you, not in your favor. Also "yasuo has been a problem since his creation" he has counterplay and isn't half as bad as playing against leblanc, fizz or even aatrox, so quit bitching learn how to play against him. Yes he's annoying, but he isn't as bad as what you say. Full ad yasuo which is the "normal" build is at ~49% right now and tanksuo is at 54, can ya'll stop saying bs?
-shove her lane hard and force her to lose farm to the turret
- pick someone with a targeted root/stun, and wait for him to use trickster. gg
tank? scratch your head as he still waveclears easily, hits hard, and can now soak up tons of damage from you.
god fizz and lb are only problems for bronzies. they are so binary, one dimensional, and predictable its so easy to out smart/out play them.
The Helehua3 votesYou make it sound as if Yasuo starts the game with 2k HP and 100+ armor, but no. Assuming you rush trin you'll be getting it at about 3/4 of the way through an average laning phase. His tank items come into play during the mid-late game, around 25 minutes if he's not fed. And how to counter Yasuo? Engage as soon as he misses a tornado, which means yes, you may have to dodge it.
Vistha Kai1 voteswhich means yes, you may have to dodge it.
*gasp*
http://i.imgur.com/fEeMuH8.gif?noredirect
The fuck you say?
Nasuuna3 votes
god fizz and lb are only problems for bronzies. they are so binary, one dimensional, and predictable its so easy to out smart/out play them.
all 3 are aids as well as zed due to lack of interaction and counterplay
Megazoz1 votesIt's not that he's overpowered, it's just that he's annoying to you. That's not a reason to nerf him, sorry.
Dominick Destine7 votesIt's not that he's overpowered, it's just that he's annoying to you. That's not a reason to nerf him, sorry.
High win rate. High ban rate. Extremely high pick rate (Which should DEFLATE his win rate)
Statistics do not lie. Your argument is garbage.
Megazoz4 votesAhri has 52.98% winrate and 11.65% pickrate (more than mid Yasuo), should we nerf her too?
Edit: Yasuo mid is at less than 50% winrate( high winrate lol), he's balanced there.
Dominick Destine5 votesAhri has 52.98% winrate and 11.65% pickrate more than....Yasuo
Your rectum is not a viable source for relevant information, sir.
Ahri does not have a higher win rate, pick rate and ban rate than Yasuo. Yasuo has a significantly higher pick and ban rate... and Ahri has a slightly higher win rate due to her significantly lower pick rate. We already know that low pick rate inflates win rate and high pick rate deflates win rate. Yasuo defies this by constantly having high win rate despite his ultra high pick rate.
Megazoz6 votesI brought that from champion.gg sir Ahri mid: 52.98% winrate and 11.65% pickrate. Yasuo mid: 49.81% winrate and 11.16% pickrate.
Your way of speaking is rude and reflects a disgusting person inside. Respect others or you will not be respected.
Dominick Destine4 votesI brought that from champion.gg sir
And you are incorrectly citing the source. Yasuo's win rate is 51%, not 49%. Indeed Ahri's pick rate is indeed 11%... however Yasuo's pick rate is 22%. Your argument is pure garbage.
Your lies and nonsense are easily identified, refuted and dismissed.
Megazoz6 votesWhen you are at Yasuo's champion gg page, the default lane is top. Change it to mid, it's 49.81%, it's on the left. Use your eyes, it's the second time you miss it.
Dominick Destine5 votesdefault
"Default" is irrelevant, what matters is the overall/median.
Your argument is garbage, cherry picking is always nonsense.
Megazoz5 votesWhen I compared Ahri and Yasuo, I specifically said Mid first. I can say that you're cherry picking too lol. I brought the statistics , and as you said they don't lie.
Keevalroy3 votesAhri is also much easier to play. If Yasuo truly is as hard as his fanboys claim he is, with a pick rate and play rate that high he shouldn't be close to a 50% win rate.
