people are going to figure out how broken this is eventually soo....

lolipopevelynn·Feb 11, 2016·143 votes·8,096 views

pro tip: activates twice with his clone.

109 Comments

HopeslayerFeb 11, 2016121 votes

that item was such a terrible idea, hopefully the koreans abuse it so much riot is forced to remove it

Reynard the ƒoxFeb 12, 20168 votes

newsflash riot only cares about na and eu pro scenes

SH AzykanFeb 12, 201637 votes

except the veigar E changes were specifically aimed to deal with how koreans were using him as a support before he was even picked that much in NA for it

Reynard the ƒoxFeb 12, 20169 votes

read: riot didnt take action until it affected the west ty for helping my point

SH AzykanFeb 12, 20167 votes

it wasnt used in NA/EU (yet), it was nerfed for how it was used in korea... way to see what you want to instead of actually reading the words that are there

ChaoticPineconeFeb 12, 20165 votes

Uh, not really.

It was used in Korea. Then it was used by C9. Then it got nerfed.

Edit - and of course, Lemonnation was the one with the article about his veigar support.

SH AzykanFeb 12, 20168 votes

the nerf (change) was in the works before c9 used it, they dont throw together a big change like veigs that fast.

kaltenashesFeb 12, 20162 votes

and ap rek'sai support was a thing but....riot: NOPS, i'll gut her now

OrangesilkFeb 12, 20162 votes

In fact Riot only cares about NA Esports, as shown by the harsh Fiora nerfs despite the fact that every region other than NA seems to know how to handle Fiora (she's at like 20% Winrate in EU LCS).

Which is TERRIBLE because NA LCS is the Bronze V of competitive LoL.

SH AzykanFeb 12, 20163 votes

and then you learn of turkish and LAS competitive LoL which if you watch resemble a LOT of my silver/gold games I am in on NA...(some outliers of really good teams, but in general)

OrangesilkFeb 12, 20162 votes

Welp, last worlds the Brazilian WC did better than most NA teams, so there's that.

SH AzykanFeb 12, 20162 votes

hence the outliers, but to be fair NA did really well in their first set, then they got obliterated after.

if you watch them face each other though, most games look absolutely ridiculous in terms of organization. Its like the teams were randoms thrown together, and never played with each other before, half the time.

Jhin UItd JFKFeb 13, 20161 votes

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that item was such a terrible idea, hopefully the koreans abuse it so much riot is forced to remove it

this is why we love korea

A Basic IslandFeb 11, 201624 votes

good thing so few people can actually shaco

hopefully my demon clown stays in the cellar

WeatheredFeb 12, 20162 votes

When you have have over 150K mastery points on Shaco ._.

Dis is good. Very good.

PæanFeb 13, 20161 votes

Brother? Have you tried juggernaut shaco? So much fun

Titanic hydra, warmogs, cleaver, zzrot, deadmans, frozen mallet, steraks. Pick some of those and get 4k hp and van burst squished like nothing.

WeatheredFeb 13, 20161 votes

Thats more of Tanko, but I played Bruiser/Tanky Shaco all last season when the tank meta was a thing. AP, Support, Tank, Bruiser, Assassin, Split push, Shaco does it all.

PæanFeb 13, 20161 votes

It is very tanky of a build but you'll be doing juggernaut damage if you use ignite and red smite to add to your burst. Still 100-0 an adc with those items

Shroom JunkieFeb 12, 20162 votes

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good thing so few people can actually shaco

hopefully my demon clown stays in the cellar

I can Shaco... Shaco

DrathTurtle314Feb 12, 20163 votes

Shaco is a champ that you either try once feed to hell with and give up on, OR you decide to main and master to the point of being able to win a game 2v5 with your clone.

I'm in the first category

TussFeb 13, 20161 votes

I had hoped he'd be as "easy" as Bounty Hunter in Dota 2. Boy was I wrong.

PixiehorseFeb 11, 201622 votes

Also Yorick ghosts

MudintheWaterFeb 11, 20163 votes

So Yorick can gift his ADC an assasin item passive? Doesn't sound broken at all!

ZantumallFeb 11, 201619 votes

Pretty sure you need to ult yourself to use it. Yorick ult inherits the items of the champion it targets.

XeroKimoFeb 12, 20161 votes

If mordekaiser kills a champ with it, can they activate it too >:) hue

SpoofghoulFeb 12, 20161 votes

probably

i do know mordeghost also has the champions passives like vayne ghost would have nighthunter and silverbolts

but i dont main morde so i don't know what else the ghost copies

Auz the RipperFeb 12, 20161 votes

The ghosty goo inherits literally any passive from any source.

To quote a post from long(ish) ago

the only difference between you and the ghost is that the ghost has better stats and the ghost can't use actives

Subject 5Feb 12, 201620 votes

The balancing teams mind:

Wow Shaco is doing a fuck ton of damage.

Nerfs the champion.

Fuck, he is still doing damage!

Nerfs the champion.

Fuck, again!?

Nerfs the champion and then the item

............................................................................ Well I mean, nobody plays Shaco so they won't mind him being awful now.

SwiftKitten88Feb 12, 201611 votes

[{quoted}](name=Subject 5,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JXbY3ayE,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2016-02-12T00:06:58.200+0000)

The balancing teams mind:

Wow Shaco is doing a fuck ton of damage.

Nerfs the champion.

Fuck, he is still doing damage!

Nerfs the champion.

Fuck, again!?

Nerfs the champion and then the item

............................................................................ Well I mean, nobody plays Shaco so they won't mind him being awful now.

idk whether to laugh at that or not. it SOO TRUE and i HATE that it is. like 100% true this is EXTACTLY what they did to TWO of my mains and i absolutely hate it.. but your spot on.. that's EXACTLY what they do

IcyPepperFeb 12, 20167 votes

Sejuani main?

The DeckownerFeb 12, 20169 votes

this is the process of sejuanied

3ofGot40veFeb 11, 20169 votes

Does he really? Lmao he can send in a clone, tap an enemy, then run in with q and tap em again

lolipopevelynnFeb 11, 20169 votes

its going to take time for people to catch on. about a month since no one plays shaco. he will then become flavor of the month and it will be nerfed. for now lets keep it as our lil secret*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

ShacolataFeb 11, 20162 votes

Ehm >_>.......

SpecterVonBarenFeb 12, 20161 votes

Or they'll nerf Shaco.

3TWarriorFeb 12, 20162 votes

Riot: Shaco and zed players have recently become a problem, but because of their lack of countermeasures, here are some riven and jax buffs, peace out players!

us: X.X

or they'll nerf shaco's clone damage... a major part of his kit and the only thing that makes AP shaco viable

Hello I am BirdFeb 12, 20161 votes

I thought poking with e and using strategic boxes what was made AP shaco viable...

BattleBalladeerFeb 12, 20161 votes

And not to mention his ult dying for the magic-damage explosion...

Seriously I thought shaclone AUTOATTACKS's were still PHYSICAL and that was the AD side to the ult, whereas the explosion and deception were the AP side...

ElewdFeb 11, 20167 votes

i yorick ulti'd a shaco with the item while shaco used his ulti, 3 procs on the same target was super mean.

Chaotic ReksFeb 12, 20161 votes

that's 75% missing health in physical damage.......................

OrangesilkFeb 12, 20164 votes

Succesively though, so you probably were missing more HP the third time the passive rolled around.

NocturnalSheildFeb 11, 20166 votes

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pro tip: activates twice with his clone.

Eh I don't think it's going to be that bad.

Not only does the clone have to be out. And its easy to kill.

You also have to be stupid enough to be in melee range of both Shaco and his clone.

And let's be fair. If your so far pushed that Shaco can pop out attack you press R and keep attacking you. Then you were already dead.

Ariel the CruelFeb 11, 20164 votes

Amusing thought. AP Shaco with Duskblade. Suicide clone. Double jeopardy!

I don't care if it's effective. XD

Poptart EvelynnFeb 12, 20163 votes

Clone can proc it but only one of them procs at a time on one target.

MasterPranksterFeb 12, 20162 votes

Holy shit

Please riot fix the bug, dont nerf shaco

hes my bronze freelo

KyrrionFeb 12, 20162 votes

Ya know, I'm really not surprised.

Shaco would find a way to break the game. Again.

OrangesilkFeb 12, 20162 votes

I don't think it's Shaco, I KINDA think it's the ridiculous item.

KyrrionFeb 12, 20163 votes

{quoted}

I don't think it's Shaco, I KINDA think it's the ridiculous item.

So, Shaco doubling the passive is the item's fault?

No son, that's just plain f---ing Shaco. This is what he does, this is what he lives for. Sneaking the hell out of no where whenever a change gets made to remind us all that he's out there... waiting...

IceKingChernobogFeb 12, 20162 votes

i think ezreal has broken more items than shavo did

Painted CeltFeb 12, 20162 votes

Well damn... Shaco isn't a favorite child, so I'm afraid there goes another one of my favorite champs. My intuition says he'll be gutted, and then item 3147 will be toned down to a balanced state, leaving Shaco utterly dumpstered until he gets deleted in some future rework. I might be being pessimistic, but the fates of my previous mains have been harsh lessons.

item 3070 Shaco Oh well... When Shaco gets nerfed, I guess I will just play Yorick on my secondary account and build these bitter tears into manamune... Yorick item 3004