Balancing Hexdrinker & Seeker's Armguard

Kivolan·Sep 28, 2016·2 votes·624 views

= 30 Armor, 20 AP. Passive can put it up to 45 Armor and 35 AP. 1.2k gold. = 35 MR, 20 Attack Damage. Passive is a shield that absorbs 110-280 Magic Damage based on level when reduced below 30% HP. 1.3k gold.

Why not balance these out and essentially make them the same item? Remove the shield on Hexdrinker, which essentially renders burst Mages useless in the early game against any AD champion (and has a lot of "hidden power" to it, which you guys don't seem to like), and replace it with the same type of passive as Seeker's.

Keep the shield on Maw, of course. Maybe then people will actually complete Maw as their first item rather than sitting on a Hexdrinker for a few items. :l

Thoughts?

4 Comments

BorkahnSep 28, 20161 votes

I think the biggest problem is pen items. There are tons of armor pen items but not alot of mr pen items. In fact what little there are I would argue are champ based. I think the problem is a little bigger here than just what those items present.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 28, 20161 votes

that id i agree with to a point... adcs typically dont run armor pen runes.. where mages run magic pen reds and adcs dont have boots as a source of armor pen where mages do ...

armor pen items : item 3147 item 3156 item 3036 item 3033 item 3071 item 3142

magic pen/mr reduction items: item 3001 item 3136 item 3151 item 3020 item 3135 item 3091

KivolanSep 29, 20161 votes

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I think the biggest problem is pen items. There are tons of armor pen items but not alot of mr pen items. In fact what little there are I would argue are champ based. I think the problem is a little bigger here than just what those items present.

This is true as well. Armor Pen items are all relatively core items due to multiple good effects as well, whereas most MR Pen items are... Well, specifically for the MR Pen. Abyssal is pretty nice, but I don't build anything else other than Void Staff very often. I honestly don't even see many Last Whispers built anymore because item 3142 item 3156 item 3147 item 3071 are all such core items for a lot of champions.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 28, 20161 votes

so you want it to stack ad and mr instead of the passive it offers?