Gangplank's barrels need something

malekdarshin·8/13/2015, 8:06:11 AM·3 votes·2,036 views

I really don't like how the barrels work. They are strong when you can land them. Against melee champs they are brutal, against ranged they suck balls. After having to lane against ranged all night for some reason, I see the major flaw. The barrels either need to be instantly usable by GP or have two life bars, one that decays for GP and one that doesn't for the enemy champs.

16 Comments

Gangtank 8/13/2015, 8:09:38 AM4 votes

They're pretty useless against ranged, agreed.

Maybe having GP's Q explode the barrels regardless of bars might help. But then again that might be strong. I dunno, he's just in a weird spot right now.

Illâoi Evê Siôn8/13/2015, 8:50:57 AM3 votes

Make barrels have 6 HP. Adjust the decay rate. Melee attacks deal 2 HP damage, ranged only 1.

Puppet33r8/13/2015, 11:11:06 AM2 votes

I don't know... those barrels feel like a stupid gimmick. I mean a lot of champions can do more damage in a much more straightforward way by just pointing their mouse at you and clicking 1 button. Just give gp a grenade or something.

Dr Poro8/13/2015, 11:20:01 AM2 votes

GP is actually in a fine spot atm£. His winrate is only 49% but he is listed as the #2 best top laner (Irelia has been #1 for months). Right after the rework, his winrate was below 40%. Every GP I saw was terribly useless. But after a while, I started seeing good GPs. And suddenly I saw AMAZING GPs, GPs that carried their whole team on their own.

It looks like a gimmick, but appearantly some people can trigger it pretty consistently by using 2 or 3 barrels in chain and instantly exploding them.

Tworie8/13/2015, 12:58:42 PM2 votes

I actually know how to use them against ranged opponents and I've played games against TF and Heimerdinger players and I can land my barrels on them just fine... y'now how I do it? I cook a detonator barrel out of their reach first to set off fresh barrels that can't be destroyed in one hit

Tumeden8/13/2015, 4:13:45 PM2 votes

Just a suggestion for people who love playing Gangplank, Yes going against ranged champions is a toughie, but everyone has their counters. My best suggestion is when you're Gangplank in lane VS a ranged Champion (such as teemo or vayne for example) is to place a series of barrels. If you're poked out under tower, Place a barrel or two back behind, or beside your tower out of range of their AA so they're unable to destroy it, letting it degenerate to one hit, so you can pop it. When they get close, place a barrel under them that is linked to the ones near/beside your turret and immediately Q, or AA the barrel under your turret to set off the chain reaction. Another suggestion is placing a barrel in one of the three top side bushes out of sight, so you can immediately drop a barrel center lane (linked to the one in your bush) and set off the chain explosion. Grabbing a red trinket to remove wards that they may place to counter this strategy would be suggested.

As far as I remember you can have up to 3-4 Barrels at a time placed out, it never hurts to throw one under your turret if you see your lane starting to get shoved, or an incoming jungle gank, or a potential turret dive. Sometimes it's easier to play strategically and safe, then to go full out 'ham' mode against an opponent that can easily out range/damage you early game.

Not sure how much clarity this post brings, but good luck!

Elkington8/19/2015, 8:23:18 PM2 votes

GP needs his slow back on his passive. Why would they remove that?

He has no gap closer, thus no real way to catch a more mobile opponent. He has no hard CC either, so it doesn't make sense to me.

Guy Fox Teemo8/13/2015, 8:49:05 AM2 votes

I dont' really think they SHOULD be strong against range champions, range champions tend to be very squishy and the 200 base damage barrel added on with all the damage your q does plus 60% armor penetration would destroy about 50-75% of their health at like lvl 9 or 12. Though they can be used against ranged well with zoning as you place them outside the range of the ranged whoever and save up barrels and quickly change them all (As they have zero cooldown on placing them).