How would you nerf the following champs

IP Masquerena··1 votes·1,175 views

As you know, I've made a similar thread quite a while ago, but at that time, the champs were ones that people considered controversial, this time, we're going straight to U.GG, take the top 3 best champs per role, place them here and see how you guys would nerf them (roles go like this: top, jg, mid, adc, support. I made it like this for ease of writting)

#1: Darius, Evelynn, Zed, Draven, Pyke #2: Moderkaiser, Hecarim, Fizz, Sivir, Nautilus #3: Riven, Yi, Katarina, Jinx, Thresh

As in the previous one, there's just 1 rule: regardless what nerfs you give them, it should not drop their win rate by more than 5%. 5% drop is already huge, so anything bigger is off limits, other than that, go ham.

Mini reworks are not allowed, as those aren't nerfs.

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The thigh guy2 votes

Darius - remove the healing buff on q Evelyn - make w cast break stealth Zed - only allow for ult shadow recast to occur after target dies Draven - spinning axe bonus damage no longer applies lifesteal Pyke - reduce healing on gray health Morde - no clue. Hecarim - can only really reduce damage tbh. Fizz - increased cooldowns on the troll pole Sivir - reduce damage on q. Nautilus - reduce bonus damage while shielded Riven - remove sos or adjust her cooldowns for it Yi - remove cooldowns refund on auto from his q Katerina - have no qualms with her Jinx - have no qualms with her Thresh - also have no qualms with him.

IP Masquerena1 votes

I was thinking more for Hecarim to have the same turn system for his E Nunu or A-Sol have. Either have him lose from the move speed if he doesn't run straight the same way A-Sol works, or have him keep the speed but have a much wider turn similar to Nunu.

That would solve 2 major qualms I have with him: easy getaway when to save his pony arse, or "I'm going in, I'm going" team doesn't follow "I'm going back".

Make him have to commit to his E initiates and not allow him free escapes just because it's off cooldown.

WoonStruck1 votes

Delete them. Their winrates won't change. ;)

Daddy Ants1 votes

Darius - Doesn't need nerfing.

 

Evelynn - The nerf on PBE is fine.

 

Zed - Doesn't need a nerf, mid laners just need to learn what armor is.

 

Draven - Spinning Axe (Q) Damage : 35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 (+ 65 / 75 / 85 / 95 / 105% bonus AD) => 35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 (+ 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100% bonus AD)

 

Pyke - Revert recent changes to his R.

 

Mordekaiser - Indestructible (W) Damage stored from damage dealt by Mordekaiser reduced to 25% from 30%. Damage stored from damage received by Mordekaiser reduced to 10% from 15%

 

Hecarim Devastating Charge (E) Damage is now flashable.

 

Fizz Revert the 9.14 change, he wasn't an issue before.

 

Sivir Boomerang Blade (Q) Cooldown increased by 2 seconds at all ranks.

 

Nautilus: Staggering Blow On target cooldown reverted to 9 / 8 / 7 / 6 (based on level) from 6 seconds at all levels.

 

Riven Valor (E) Shield Strength: 95 / 125 / 155 / 185 / 215 (+ 100% bonus AD) => 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 / 210 (+ 90% bonus AD)~~

 

MasterYi: Doesn't need a nerf. Silver and below just need to start picking champs like Leona and Naut who cuck him hard.

 

Katarina Revert the 9.14 change, I don't think she has issues killing anyone.

 

Jinx Switcheroo! (Q) The 10% bonus damage granted by Fishbones can no longer critically strike (8.13 revert)

 

Thresh Dark Passage (W) Mana Cost: 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 => 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80

IP Masquerena1 votes

Just because you, along other Zed mains simply think the champ is "fine", it doesn't mean it's true.

Zed's kit is broken (Broken means design issue, not numbers issue).

Also, here's the words of a challenger analyst, time stamped:

https://youtu.be/GDToxz48jNc?t=894

TL:DR - got comments of Zed mains crying Zed shouldn't be in A tier as he's too weak to be there, guy took Zed for a second look to make sure, so they changed Zed's tier because the viewers were correct, he's not A tier, he's S tier.

Also, I love how you go "silver and bellow need to learn" when the stats pulled by U.GG for this list are Plat+.

Daddy Ants1 votes

{quoted}

Just because you, along other Zed mains simply think the champ is "fine", it doesn't mean it's true.

Zed's kit is broken (Broken means design issue, not numbers issue).

Also, here's the words of a challenger analyst, time stamped:

https://youtu.be/GDToxz48jNc?t=894

TL:DR - got comments of Zed mains crying Zed shouldn't be in A tier as he's too weak to be there, guy took Zed for a second look to make sure, so they changed Zed's tier because the viewers were correct, he's not A tier, he's S tier.

Also, I love how you go "silver and bellow need to learn" when the stats pulled by U.GG for this list are Plat+.

I AM NOT A ZED MAIN

I REPEAT

I AM NOT A ZED MAIN

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