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i am quitting teemo..

SirTeemoMushroom··29 votes·3,573 views

ey what's up? as you might now from almost all posts i made i am a fanatic teemo main... well, i decided to quit teemo though.. why it's very simple

  1. takes almost no skills to play teemo which that leads you to be useless with anyother champion.
  2. you can't really climb with teemo, except if you are premade of play 100% defense (or your opponent is a boosted animal)
  3. teemo mains are toxic , in fact i am toxic when i play with teemo, idk why but you feel the need to be toxic once you play teemo for a reason..because you play teemo just to piss of others but at the end (sometimes) you are the one getting angry so.. it's a reverse

anyway, im quitting teemo it's a trashy champion after all , all teemo mains know that teemo is not a skilled champion, we just play with him because many of teemo mains don't have actual skills to play any other champions and wanna make people angry. (shrooms,blind,E)

by the way, i main teemo for 2.5 years so.. i have a little bit of experience with this devil so... yea

EDIT : i made a post how to counter teemo ... http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/hExsaxZp-how-to-counter-teemo-guide-by-a-teemo-main

63 Comments

serenity718 votes

I have over 1 million mastery points on Teemo and this season I quit playing him completely. I played him because he was a tank shredder, splitpusher, and objective/vision controller. Not because I want to make other people mad or because I have no skills to play other champions. Now, his simple kit feels outdated and unviable. He does not have the tools to compete with the more modern champions. His kit is does not give you the ability to outplay opponents. I thought I could carry games through good game knowledge and decision making alone, but that doesn't work in this season. This are the problems with teemo:

-His passive is irrelevant because the game has become more team fight oriented -His Q blind effect is not significant enough, most champs can still kill you without autoing you -His W does not provide mobility on the same level as new mobile champions, he is now considered immobile -His E makes him reliant on auto attacks, which require him to need peel. His poison damage is not strong enough to get through all the new shields. -His traps, his ultimate ability and main form of damage, are not a reliable form of damage in a teamfight, can be cleared with sweeper
-He does not have a clear identity, he is a mix of mage, marksman, and assassin elements. He is single target, right click reliant, immobile, and has little burst. In this season, this results in a champion who has a weak early game, poor teamfight, and more recently, poor laning phase due to being an easy target for ganks. -His playstyle and ability usage are predictable, non-interactive, and repetitive. -His damage is undodgeable and has no counterplay, and therefore the champion must be kept weak

This champion is in dire need of a rework. I hope certain key elements of his kit are saved, but he needs significant changes. To be viable he needs a better mobility spell, damage added to his kit that is up front and not single targeted, and to be less reliant on his autos and his traps for damage. He needs a gameplay identity that is unique to the champion, and abilities that work together clearly and cohesively.

SirTeemoMushroom4 votes

they will rework him.. but late 2018 so... eh

serenity73 votes

The problem is really his lack of identity. They didn't change him in the marksman update. Not in the mage or assassin update either.

SirTeemoMushroom2 votes

i think if they limited his auto shots to 2-4 they would add a super passive that would kill any standing living thing.

serenity72 votes

His poison should need to be activated by some combo of his abilities. He needs a real dash. His q or a new ability should be a skill shot or multi target. His traps should be a utility tool not a damage tool, and they shouldn't be his ultimate. He also needs a completely new ability, or a new effect to activate with a certain combo of abilities, this could possibly involve stealth.

Kyunsei1 votes

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they will rework him.. but late 2018 so... eh

Man don't dream too much, I'd be very surprised for a rework in 2018, even late.

sobi9995 votes

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I have over 1 million mastery points on Teemo and this season I quit playing him completely. I played him because he was a tank shredder, splitpusher, and objective/vision controller. Not because I want to make other people mad or because I have no skills to play other champions. Now, his simple kit feels outdated and unviable. He does not have the tools to compete with the more modern champions. His kit is does not give you the ability to outplay opponents. I thought I could carry games through good game knowledge and decision making alone, but that doesn't work in this season. This are the problems with teemo:

-His passive is irrelevant because the game has become more team fight oriented -His Q blind effect is not significant enough, most champs can still kill you without autoing you -His W does not provide mobility on the same level as new mobile champions, he is now considered immobile -His E makes him reliant on auto attacks, which require him to need peel. His poison damage is not strong enough to get through all the new shields. -His traps, his ultimate ability and main form of damage, are not a reliable form of damage in a teamfight, can be cleared with sweeper
-He does not have a clear identity, he is a mix of mage, marksman, and assassin elements. He is single target, right click reliant, immobile, and has little burst. In this season, this results in a champion who has a weak early game, poor teamfight, and more recently, poor laning phase due to being an easy target for ganks. -His playstyle and ability usage are predictable, non-interactive, and repetitive. -His damage is undodgeable and has no counterplay, and therefore the champion must be kept weak

This champion is in dire need of a rework. I hope certain key elements of his kit are saved, but he needs significant changes. To be viable he needs a better mobility spell, damage added to his kit that is up front and not single targeted, and to be less reliant on his autos and his traps for damage. He needs a gameplay identity that is unique to the champion, and abilities that work together clearly and cohesively.

Can you pleaseeee for all the teemo mains out there make a thread on him of what you have stated above? I sincerely ask you to consider making one. Only because you have over 1kk mastery points on him and you have a great deal of knowledge about his strengths and weaknesses. People don't want to understand how bad of a situation teemo is in and just look at his harassment against meele champs with no gap closers. Although i would strongly advice you to add teemo's strengths and in what ways he is viable in the current meta (even if there are few). Also how he has lost his scout identity by destroying his vision control i.e. 5mins mushroom time and oracles/wards. I can't make a thread because i only have 60k mastery points on him and eventhough i know exactly where teemo is lacking it is not backed up by my mastery points.

serenity71 votes

(http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/PtTkzA7T-riot-i-am-a-1-million-mastery-points-teemo-main-i-think-he-really-needs-a-rework)

winteriscoming9712 votes

The words of a broken man.

Sozan58 votes
  1. takes almost no skills to play teemo which that leads you to be useless with anyother champion.

Disagreed. While Teemo doesn't have much of a skill floor due to little mechanics involved, he is extremely reliant on your game knowledge, map awarness etc. In other words - strategic skills.

  1. you can't really climb with teemo, except if you are premade of play 100% defense (or your opponent is a boosted animal)

You can climb with anything, if you are good enough. So far I'm here: http://i.imgur.com/L78xkNj.png?noredirect

  1. teemo mains are toxic , in fact i am toxic when i play with teemo, idk why but you feel the need to be toxic once you play teemo for a reason..because you play teemo just to piss of others but at the end (sometimes) you are the one getting angry so.. it's a reverse

http://i.imgur.com/XiiKJ9n.png?noredirect http://i.imgur.com/sLc4yg7.png?noredirect http://i.imgur.com/uJu89Mp.png?noredirect

Stop trying to shift the blame on the champion. If you are an ass, that's on you.

In general, I believe Teemo is fine as he is right now. Maybe his model and voice would need some updating (especially his VO, as he has what... 10 lines of it?) and there are some balance issues around higher elos (trap disabling being too easy and cheap to get mainly).

This is from a D4 Teemo main: http://i.imgur.com/BQKpGnG.png?noredirect

SirTeemoMushroom1 votes

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Sozan55 votes

If you place shrooms only to protect yourself, you are doing something wrong.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

While I agree with most of your comment: actually every champ requires game knowledge and map awareness. So that argument seems a bit hollow.

Besides that I absolutely agree with you.

Sozan51 votes

Yes, but not many champs need it to the extent that Teemo does (due to the fact that his mistakes are heavily and easily punished - way more than most of the cast).

Imperial Japan1 votes

{quoted}

Disagreed. While Teemo doesn't have much of a skill floor due to little mechanics involved, he is extremely reliant on your game knowledge, map awarness etc. In other words - strategic skills.

You can climb with anything, if you are good enough. So far I'm here: http://i.imgur.com/L78xkNj.png?noredirect

http://i.imgur.com/XiiKJ9n.png?noredirect http://i.imgur.com/sLc4yg7.png?noredirect http://i.imgur.com/uJu89Mp.png?noredirect

Stop trying to shift the blame on the champion. If you are an ass, that's on you.

In general, I believe Teemo is fine as he is right now. Maybe his model and voice would need some updating (especially his VO, as he has what... 10 lines of it?) and there are some balance issues around higher elos (trap disabling being too easy and cheap to get mainly).

This is from a D4 Teemo main: http://i.imgur.com/BQKpGnG.png?noredirect

I agree full heartedly, my friend CottainTaiITeemo is a Diamond 5(?) teemo JUNGLE main and only plays solo. He is never toxic, is very helpful, and pretty skilled.

Chembaron Yamada6 votes

Sooooooo..... Exorcism actually works, huh?

Death and Doom5 votes

i dont want to be mean, but there are high elo teemo mains. just saying, but the champion IS good enough to get one to diamond-master.

Craft Zeppelin3 votes

His kit is too way loaded in his E that riot literally iceboxed him yorick style. You have to wait until their said rework sadly...if youre lucky maybe you can get solid snake furry as a visual overhaul as well

SirTeemoMushroom1 votes

what do you mean ?
by the way , full AP/magic pen teemo your E gives you another 350 damage in 4 seconds, and if u use runans you can stealth on the upcoming enemy team and gain your passive 80% attack speed for 3 sec. and place some shrooms, after the step on the shrooms you can start attacking them and they will actually die.. specially after not being ready and not fast to react.

Sasogwa2 votes

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what do you mean ?
by the way , full AP/armor pen teemo

U mean magic pen right

SirTeemoMushroom3 votes

magic penetration :p xD sorry :p

vOmvbrawfU20 votes

overloaded

Wut

idontgiveabother3 votes

He has a toggle a shitty speed boost a point an click q wards that do damage

Its so basic and linear. How is it overloaded???

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

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He has a toggle a shitty speed boost a point an click q wards that do damage

Its so basic and linear. How is it overloaded???

Im saying that his kit is loaded 80% in his E. Im aint sayin his overall kit is overloaded. The E is what makes him barely viable yet so toxic to the game which riot stopped even touching him like some cursed object.

Arya Riven1 votes

No. The problem is Teemo is linear and underloaded. So he isn't a good champion.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

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No. The problem is Teemo is linear and underloaded. So he isn't a good champion.

Thats what im saying. His kit is almost entirely reliant on his E that is literally what he only has for now. If teemo cant cheese before lvl 6, he is basically doomed.

SzGamer2273 votes

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you can't really climb with teemo, except if you are premade of play 100% defense (or your opponent is a boosted animal)

FYI, there are at least 5 Teemo mains in Challenger and almost a dozen ins Master tier. Even Galio has a main in Master, which goes to show you can climb with anybody lmao.

dominusx2 votes

If only janna mains quit that uninteractive trash aswell maybe the game would be better.

Bakataumana8 votes

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If only janna mains quit that uninteractive trash aswell maybe the game would be better.

lol bit salty and failing to kill someone recently?

dominusx1 votes

bit salty that i see all those Janna onetricks who only have a positive winrate on Janna and suck at everything else the game has..other than that not much more of a reason to get salty since i quit caring about rank and i'm just trolling normals atm.

Skins Project1 votes

You do know what onetrick means right?

It literally means you can do ONE thing well.

Considering you're already trolling on lol, how about you quit that along with trolling on boards.

maybe the game would be better.

Please,

i'm just trolling normals atm.

That's why the game is "bad"

dominusx1 votes

there is a difference to beeing good with one high mechanical champ and beeing good with Janna. Janna all she does is press E and support items and do nothing else 0 interaction with the enemy dogshit champ. ANd i think you should be more worried that i outperform 80% of the playerbase a troll rather than me trolling in it self.

Skins Project1 votes

I don't even know where to start on your argument...

If all your doing is spamming one move, be it Janna or any other champ your not drawing out the potential of the champion. While her kit is quite loaded onto her e each of her abilities can have a heavy impact if used correctly.

Moving on.

I couldn't give less of a shit about how "good" you are, or how your preforming. Intent, not effect is what matters, be it in a court of law or here, in which your just bothering other players.

sobi9992 votes

Guys if you actually look at teemo's winrate then you'll see it's pretty decent with like 2% playrate on average. I would strongly suggest to completely stop playing him and let his winrate fall. In the long run you'll be doing all the teemo mains a favor as he seriously needs a rework.

EpicPizzaMaster2 votes

I have a mere 100K on teemo but i have to agree with you. It's not that he's too easy, it's just that kits are so overloaded these days it's hard to find a place for him in the team. He's bad at team fighting, squishy af, and his shrooms are easily countered. I don't agree with the need to be toxic. He's just a champion i enjoy playing because i'm not mechanically advanced/don't have time to learn difficult champions.

h5LYF41Lam1 votes

wasnt teemo always a trollpick? Please teemo mains dont stone me to death.

SirTeemoMushroom12 votes

depends , people who pick teemo and troll their team are trash. people who pick teemo to troll their enemies are mains :P

h5LYF41Lam1 votes

it just seems from this post that its news to you that this champion was never meant for competitive. Garen Teemo Tristana these champions were never meant to be champions for high rank competitive matches.even after he gets reworked he still wont be suitable for ranked.

SirTeemoMushroom8 votes

actually there are challenger teemo mains..

Xeruon1 votes

That doesn't change the fact that you're gimping your own team by picking Teemo.

Sozan51 votes

Wrong. If you know how to play with Teemo in team, he can become extremely effective. The amount of objective and map control he provides is astounding.

That said, he is weak in teamfight (especially in ones that your team engaged), so you have to keep that in mind and focus on picks, splitpushing and defending.

h5LYF41Lam1 votes

i guess i expressed myself wrong,its not that teemo doesnt belong in ranked its just that he belongs in a pool of suboptimal picks.better now?

Sozan51 votes

Not really.

He's a niche pick.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I mean Trist was ruling the world not to long ago down in Pro play Bot.

Shit if Turtle hadn't been on Trist C9 would of Three Peated NA Championships.

serenity72 votes

He may have been a "troll pick" in the sense that he is annoying to play against. But he was viable at least in earlier seasons. Now he is almost always a troll pick because everyone, even his mains, know that he is too weak to play, unless you are with a premade who will plan around around peeling for you and using traps for their advantage.

Chaos Milk Tea1 votes

Teemo does one thing for his team: Split push.

Sit in enemy top jungle and shroom up every entrance. Blue ward every bush. Stay there. Get a runaan's to push the lane out whenever you can. Tele back after cashing gold. It will reach the point that its not worth entering that side of their jungle to find you. If your teem suddenly starts losing because they are down a guy... well you're teem you were no help anyway.

SirTeemoMushroom3 votes

if enemy team is good, they will target teemo , specially on high elo games . there's always someone pushing top in order to prevent teemo from split pushing

SaltyKracka1 votes

One less tumor.

SirTeemoMushroom2 votes

kinda rude.. but ok , i gave enough desperation to enemy teams through the years

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