Simple way to make Braum viable top and jungle

Lugg··2 votes·408 views

This one simple change would work wonders for him. Just change his passive to allow the stun after 3 hits instead of 4 if no allied champions are within 2000 range of him. This would allow him to have much better trades top and to have a better jungle clear.

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FreudFromSKA2 votes

It'd make him a great top laner and a possibly fine jg, but his engages would be so good that you may see nerfs to his numbers, trashing him as a supp and possibly a jg (since his first clear is nothing special now).

I think he is an enjoyable, useful support. No need to fix.

Lugg1 votes

I don't think that one change would make him great top. It would just make him viable. His jungle isn't bad now, the change would just make his first clear safer.

67chrome1 votes

This one simple change would work wonders for him. Just change his passive to allow the stun after 3 hits instead of 4 if no allied champions are within 2000 range of him.

that change would make him more of a top-lanner or jungler than a support though.

Considering the tiny pool of support champions and comparably massive pool of junglers and top lane champions, not a good move for diversity.

Also: worth considering what Kha'Zix's isolation damage means. Nobody sees that as bonus damage for isolating targets, they see that as a restriction on his play-pattern where he must isolate targets. Same thing generally applies to everyone else. LoL allows players to do pretty much anything, but pushes them in specific directions through optimization. Optimal CC when alone is "Braum is good when alone".

Lugg1 votes

Personally, I think it's a good thing when champs are able to play more than one role. It allows their mains to play them more often.

I main support and the pool of viable champs right now is possibly the highest in the game for any role. So I don't think it would hurt diversity at all.

I don't think this would make Braum a better alone champ than support at all. If you are support, you can get the passive stun much faster with someone else attacking. Being alone, it would just help his trading better. Plus a huge amount of champs apply their ability or passive after three hits, this would put him on even ground against them.

67chrome1 votes

Personally, I think it's a good thing when champs are able to play more than one role. It allows their mains to play them more often.

No real argument there.

I main support and the pool of viable champs right now is possibly the highest in the game for any role. So I don't think it would hurt diversity at all.

I guess that really depends on what your definition of viable is.

I'm more concerned about the champion pool with their primary lane being support. There's a small handful of support primaries, being the smallest champion archetype of the 6. There's a small handful of tank/supports and mages that really feel at home in the lane beyond that: resulting in a small champion pool overall. There's also the whole Lulu thing where she's a better top lanner than support.

Compare that to jungle where essentially every melee-range champion in the game can work that as their primary lane position, mid lane where the fairly massive pool of mages along with ~half the assassins feel at home, or top lane where a rather large mix of tanks, fighters, assassins, mages, marksman, and support champions all feel at home.

support just doesn't have a large champion pool. The only lane position it really beats is ADC.

I don't think this would make Braum a better alone champ than support at all.

It certainly sends a message he's better alone though, which is the bigger issue.

Lugg1 votes

About the only "dedicated supports" now are Janna Soraka . All the others can do more than one role reasonably well.

I don't think it would send the "better alone" message at all. You would still proc his passive faster with two people and his shield is much better around others.

zlumpy1 votes

I wish there weren't so many thing that bypassed his shield. Also returning some damage like rammus wouldn't be terrible or maybe give him passive stacks when enemies hit his shield with AA.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Why make Braum a top laner/jungler though? ...I guess one could ask why not too lol.

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