"Hey, let's promote junglers afk farming and completely neglecting their team, then 1v5ing with an incredibly strong steroid and allowing them to say "GG CARRIED U SHIT SCRUBS GOML" as master yi"
Remove. This. Item.
It has no place in this game.
Shyvana / Warwick got along fine with cinderhulk when devourer was disabled. Nocturne and Yi did fine with warrior.
Akali is SO HOT11 votesNo it's gameplay and balance
VG Crows1 votesActually, just gameplay
Enosetc1 votes[{quoted}](name=SLT Wind,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sPVb8RYV,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-10-31T10:30:58.837+0000)
Actually, just gameplay
ya cuz most of the people here don't actually want balance
they want everything they hate to be gutted and they want sona to be pick or ban op
Archon X3 votes+1'd
I fucking hate devourer
BluePolarizer3 votesThe most toxic thing in the game is actually the ADC:
squishy low utility always feast or famine needs to build full damage no matter what very expensive and rigid build encourages farming 24/7
yet they are also required on every team. I'd say a farming jungler is far less toxic.
kJs2 votesI totally agree, Riot should simply stop trying to make AS speed jungle items. Feral Flare wasn't healthy and Sated Devourer isn't healthy either.
Crossette2 votesMost toxic thing in the game?
for both teams.
but yeah devourer fucking sucks too
Karbuncle2 votesYour complaint has all to do with the scrubs you play with,and Riot hasn't tried to nerf Humans yet.
Scenario Master Yi goes in to gank bot,thanks to his gank enemy bot dies and you may now get scuttle and dragon without defiance from bot lane,Master Yi gets like 10 stacks from that THEN proceeds to say "GG CARRIED U SHIT SCRUBS GOML" as master yi"
magic pole1 votesi always thought that it should encourage team play more. Sure you get stacks for champion takedowns, but not enough. It's less risky and typically you spike faster if you just afk farm creeps; but, i agree it's pretty misguided to incentivize NOT being a team player. seems contrary to what a lot of this game is about.
that said, I've definitely become a more cautious and overall better/safer laner because of this thing. If i see shyv,udyr,yi,nocturne (FUCK), etc. , i just assume it's fend for yourself lanes. basically a 4v5 until ~20 min.
anyway, my suggestion would be adding stacks (50?) yet tweaking the power either along the way or once it's sated. Make the spike more gradual basically. And, of course, 1 stack per large monster, 2 crab / 5 dragon is ok i guess, but 2 stacks per champion kill/assist to promote more team play. idk
Shonjl1 votesNot every jungle is early game is the issue. People seem to forget that a decent chunk of the current jungles don't even want to leave the jungle til 6, or without their first item. So this doesn't really effect them at all. Also people seem to group everyone together even though each person is different.
I have seen countless devourer jngs including myself gank while still stacking. It isn't hard at all. Also idk what all the YI hype is about, I haven't seen a Yi in like forever. I see more Cinderhulk jngs than Devourer really. Most people have gotten smart with Devourer.
Lord Boltrix1 votesWhy not change it so that champion kills and assists give two stacks instead of one?
I mean a gank at bot lane would not only potentially give four stacks, you could then go get the Rift Scuttler for another two or rush Dragon and get five, maybe then go into THEIR jungle to steal their farm.
What I would do is increase the stack requirement to Sated to 35 or 40 stacks, but implement that kill/assist change. All of a sudden, by the time you reach 35 to 40 stacks AFK farming, the game is pretty much done for your team if you haven't been at least trying to apply pressure to the other lanes... unless you're facing a Devourer-jungler who ganks as much as you do.
So the best option is to mix in farming with ganking to try to get stacks from champions, kill or assist itself doesn't matter, you helped thus you are farming stacks.
Slamurai Jack1 votesHello, July 2015 called, they want their QQ thread back.
ihaveapotion1 votesits riot.
Sasogwa1 votestbh, Yi with warrior is pretty garbage, devourer is immensely better. Also Yi's kit favourises a farming style, he'll basically stay the same, I even think he's gonna reach his powerspike later in the game. And he'll be less enclined to get scuttlers/drakes.
Ludovico1 votesGive it some time, and like madreds bloodrazor, or feral flare - it´ll get removed. I mean Riot HAS to notice, that it wasnt the numbers that made feral flare broken, but the stacking system.
Wyrmblade1 votesRip Aatrox then.
ADepressedLeona1 votesI actually build Cinderhulk over Dev on Shyv
Because I really hate farming that thing
DemaciaClown1 votesDoes anyone even use it anymore? I rarely see it nowadays, and when I do it's devourer kindred. Wich is no problemom
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"Hey, let's promote junglers afk farming and completely neglecting their team, then 1v5ing with an incredibly strong steroid and allowing them to say "GG CARRIED U SHIT SCRUBS GOML" as master yi"
Remove. This. Item.
It has no place in this game.
Shyvana / Warwick got along fine with cinderhulk when devourer was disabled. Nocturne and Yi did fine with warrior.
Cinderhulk is garbage on Warwick, and Warrior is garbage on Yi.
Aatrox and Jax also rely on the item in the jungle.
If your sated jungler isn't helping their laners, they're a bad sated jungler. Wiping bot and getting a free drag is more stacks than just killing a camp.
blueberrypancake2 votesWarrior garbage on Yi
loooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllll
PonderousSealion1 votesBad players will utilize items badly. Just because the people on your team don't know how to balance farming and ganking doesn't make it a bad item.
Uva9x6gDhC1 votesExcept that you won't be able to 1v5 carry unless you're in bronze where people don't know how to end games. Even in gold this shit doesn't work.
ChaosThief1 votesPre-sated devourer was fine. Then double on hit effects had to be added.
Sated devourer has damage equal to 75 magic damage on old devourer for 2 hits... yeah... and this is after nerfs.
Shonjl1 votesTo be fair, picking champs that don't have hard CC is your own fault for letting them rampage. Yi in perticular is only strong against noobs. Since if he is hit by any CC he dies instantly. Shyvana is an issue I will agree with but really she isn't any different than Cinderhulk. Do you want a to get hit by a truck when she is a tank? Or get hit by a truck while she is weaker than a tank? Devourer is a big item on Shy since that is like over 1khp she is missing for not choosing to Cinderhulk. WW always built Devourer even before the Sated addon so this hasn't really changed how he plays at all. He only cares about the attack speed.
Its just tiring hearing people cry about Devourer since even if Yi built Warrior, he would still destroy noobs and they would still complain.