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10% Refund On Runes = Ripoff

Subject 5··7 votes·577 views

Eyyyyooooo another Subject 5 Post? Dayummmm what's he going to over dramatize this time?

Well the rune system of course! Duh.

So the current understanding is that 10% of our IP will be refunded when runes are removed - fair enough? Ehhhhh . . . the removal of runes means that the content you've earned with time and effort will be removed along with it - thus, if you spend IP on runes, you are essentially only getting back 10% of the spent IP, which means that all of the games required will equal to about only 10% effiecency towards your gain on IP when the runes are removed. To put that in better perspective:

When I was a noob, I made a runepage that I called BLUE BUFF: I had like ONLY mana regen, literally, that was it. Each one costed like 800 IP per rune, some of them costed like 3K per rune! Wowie! So in total, the runepage costed 18K- 23K IP to actually create, which again - I am only getting 10% of that much back. So let's choose the medium route of 21K IP for that rune page: 10% of 21K = 2100 IP refunded = 19900 IP wasted

How many games did I get revived from the rune pages?

https://puu.sh/xpYTo/df9872e8cd.jpg Let's use this as a reference. So first win of the day = about 200 IP per game, then each game is about 50 IP. For every first win of the day, let's say that I play an additional 4 games to match that - for a total of 400 IP per day. (Which again - this will have taken you more than 3 hours of time!)

Math:

https://puu.sh/xpZ5l/b407b1a443.png 30 First Wins Of The Day 12K IP

https://puu.sh/xpZ6j/4eb6107438.png After 30 First wins - you play 4 more games to equal about 200 more IP for a total of 6000 IP

Total IP gained about 30 days of LoL and then 3 combined hours which add up to about 90 HOURS.<-----------------------------------------

Good job! You've gotten about roughly 18K IP! Good job! The only problem is that . . . you need to play for about 2 more weeks just to get that ONE RUNE PAGE!

Alright!

Woo!

Can we get a round of applause everybody - you're almost to one runepage!

What's that? What? Wait . . . you're trying to tell me that you're only getting 10 IP per game and only 20 IP for every first win with these changes? Wait that can't be right . . . that means those games you played for those extremely costly runes only ran you at a 10% and 20% effiency for gaining IP! Sheesh, certainly somebody couldn't come across as money grubbing sacks of-

2 Hours of vicious heart rape inducing frothing out the mouth ranting later

14 Comments

jwebb01132 votes

yet you used the runes got use from them... the new system is free and not gated by in game currency for every 1 and they are giving you back free in game currency and a special store to get shit with it

damn you rito

Subject 51 votes

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yet you used the runes got use from them... the new system is free and not gated by in game currency for every 1 and they are giving you back free in game currency and a special store to get shit with it

damn you rito

It was an unconventional IP sink that Riot is currently abusing to keep the system of IP up and into the air, not refunding said content is like taking away time that each player is given. Entitled isn't a word I would use when the very business Riot does create thrives only on the soul of the community, if somebody bought a champion and then said champion was removed - the community would be in absolute uproar of the situation, absolutely maddened because it just takes SO fucking long to get a singular champion. This isn't a champion though, it's a runepage, that costs 3 times as much as a champion. It upsets people- rightfully so - it comes across as money hungry and absolutely void of community justice in exchange for additional business.

It's kind of like giving somebody a dog, and then after like 3 years of them having the dog - you come over to there house and SMACK THAT MOTHER FUCKER ACROSS THE FACE take the dog, and then just leave with the 90% of it. Don't worry Jimmy - at least Subject 5 left the dogs teeth, am I right? You can even name the teeth. Like something cute. Like "Toothy." And then you can pet the roots that are attached to the teeth like you would a pelt - it even leaves a bit of slobber, errr sort of - more like blood.

hhaavviikk1 votes

{quoted}

yet you used the runes got use from them... the new system is free and not gated by in game currency for every 1 and they are giving you back free in game currency and a special store to get shit with it

damn you rito

you say that like they're doing us a favor, do you really think riot could have gotten away with making the new runes cost IP? they take away runes and then give you new runes costing IP, not even the fanboys would defend that so obviously the new runes are free

jwebb01131 votes

the runes whether or not they cost IP or dont new or old are still obtained freely in the game

and riot dont have to give a damn thing for them

Subject 52 votes

Support this post here - https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/xs7dFWns-these-refund-numbers-are-disgusting

Another person who has done math and argued reasonably without white knighting it out.

Subject 51 votes

TYPO! I used a 400 sum for a 200 First win. With 30 days of first wins, you only actually get half that value! So yeah. Uh. Just add another 20 days or so, that seems fair.

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

Ummmmmm I thought we were getting blue essence since ip is no longer being a thing

Subject 52 votes

{quoted}

Ummmmmm I thought we were getting blue essence since ip is no longer being a thing

Same thing, different economy - I'm just awful at math so decided to convert the statistics into a whole number by strictly using IP as getting across a bigger picture. Veterans are basically being kicked in the teeth with these changes, feels a lot like we don't feel as valued as the ignorant new populace that white knight every bad change as good and every good change as godlike.

Subject 51 votes

Oh yeah, if you're interested in those fallacies they are:

Reductio ad absurdum & Appeal to extremes - SUPER - easy google search.

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