Thornmail's Recipe

FantasySniper·Jan 6, 2016·34 votes·1,266 views

Change the + into + .

1250g to finish the item is just plain unnecessary.

19 Comments

Tribbles FoxfolkJan 6, 20169 votes

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Change the + into + .

1250g to finish the item is just plain unnecessary.

Or Chain Vest + Chain Vest + Cloth Armor with the remaining gold for the combine cost. (For anyone curious: 2 CV + 1 CA = +95 Armor)

We could also just kinda buff Thornmail so it isn't a joke.

NixtarmaJan 7, 20161 votes

It is the best single source of armor in the game, so by stats alone it is pretty good.

IDK about the passive.

doiminat0r3600Jan 7, 20165 votes

The passive is the reason you get Thornmail.

Its like if Randuins didn't have the -10% crit. That is one less reason to buy it.

AlienPrimateJan 7, 20161 votes

The problem with buffing it is that it could become too op on some champions like taric and rammus. One game with thornmail as is on rammus I made a fed yi (something like 15-5) 2 shot himself. If they buffed thornmail any they would come right back and nerf champions who can already make use of it.

SpoofghoulJan 6, 20168 votes

OR item 3157 + item 3083 + item 1031 + item 3599 + + = item 3075 Zhonyasthronmogs

50 gold 500 armor 5000 health 50000 health regen

Unique passive; Everytime you take damage you go into stasis for 0,5 seconds and heal for 50% of your max health whilst dealing double that damage to the attacker

SaiannaJan 6, 20167 votes

CertainlyT is that you?

AL000Jan 7, 20161 votes

it would cool if damage convert to heal...

Critmaster GarenJan 6, 20165 votes

id be more interested that they buff the passive already. 400 armor and a thormail should at the very least be able to cancel out the lifesteal of an adc.

WiegrafOfValorJan 6, 20163 votes

They could simply make Thornmail apply GW on the attacker.

FantasySniperJan 6, 20163 votes

Redesigning Thornmail as "The Tanky GW Item"... I can see it happening.

LordForrestJan 6, 20162 votes

Thornmail is not intended to cancel lifesteal, just to merely weaken it so they are more susceptible to other incoming damage. The fact that before Autoattackers could kill themselves attacking you with lifesteal, armor pen, and magic resist (the counters to Thornmail) was really bad.

Critmaster GarenJan 6, 20163 votes

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Thornmail is not intended to cancel lifesteal, just to merely weaken it so they are more susceptible to other incoming damage. The fact that before Autoattackers could kill themselves attacking you with lifesteal, armor pen, and magic resist (the counters to Thornmail) was really bad.

it wasnt bad, it was almost the only protection that was working against them.

right now the item is even more binary than before. thanks to the armor scaling, its now only useful on 600 armor malphite and mostly shit on everyone else.

they Need to revert the change or buff the passive to a point where the damage return is noticable again.

LordForrestJan 7, 20161 votes

It is not intended to be clearly obvious that they are dying by auto attacking you. Its purpose is to weaken the lifesteal they get so damage they are dealt in teamfights sticks better. That is the intended healthy purpose of Thornmail. Before Thornmail was too strong because one relatively cheap item completely nullify auto attackers. This forced them to either ignore that enemy or have to spend way more money on items just to counter it. Seeing as the only way to counter thornmail was through a combination of high lifesteal, armor pen, and magic resist.

FantasySniperJan 6, 20162 votes

In my honest opinion, it should scale off of 20% Physical Damage (+20% Armor). <-- Notice it's not "Bonus Armor".