A new tank item.

The thigh guy··2 votes·879 views

What is the problem with giving tanks good items? It’s that bruisers of all kinds can and will abuse them. Next thing is, people are going to cry “tank meta tank meta” so I think we can solve both of these problems in one shot, and finally give tanks an item that basically says “fuck you, I am a tank, and I’m GOING to be difficult to kill!”

I’ll just do the finished product because I’m not paid, and such build path won’t be discussed.

(Insert item name here) 40 armor 40 magic resist 400 health

Unique passive Indomitable- ALL damage you receive is reduced by 50% before resistance calculation.

Unique passive defender - all damage you deal is reduced by 30%.

So I’m sure we can agree. This item is POWERFUL. Tanks are going to be significant more powerful. But. They are sacrificing a large portion of damage for this survivability.

Now that little defender passive. This solves both problems mentioned before.

No bruiser/adc/damage role is going to touch this thing with a 60 foot stick, because they can’t give up 30% of their damage. That’s a lot. It also appeases the “tank meta tank meta :c” problem because of the same thing.

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usul12023 votes

Doubling your effective health with absolutely no way to bypass it beyond true damage, plus health, plus resists? That shits gonna have to cost like, 5000+ gold lol. Maybe more, haven't don't cost effectiveness calcs in a while.

The thigh guy1 votes

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Doubling your effective health with absolutely no way to bypass it beyond true damage, plus health, plus resists? That shits gonna have to cost like, 5000+ gold lol. Maybe more, haven't don't cost effectiveness calcs in a while.

How so? You are sacrificing 30% of your damage. So that is clearly a negative value.

usul12022 votes

That was including the damage reduction. Stone plate gives less value and reduces damage more, temporarily for 2500g. Especially at high elo play (and infinitely more in pro play) you're not picking tanks for their damage. The damage in their kits is required in order to lane effectively and create openings in the early midgame rotations. Mid to late it's a non factor, and there is no legitimate tradeoff. Hell, stone plate made even the Koreans pick J4, and they hate J4.

You also have to make it cost prohibitive to supports, who can heavily abuse it. I mean, alistar hits a 87.5% damage reduction with that and ult BEFORE armor and Mr are considered. That would entirely metashift tank supps if they could buy it, and cost is the most effective way to negate that.

Finally, it would make tanks absolutely fucking boring. World of Warcraft had this problem with bear tanks. When all of your mitigation is passive (since you've now passively given every tank an alistar ult) and you dont do enough damage the reach threat thresholds, what do you do? Stand there? You spam out your abilities, and then your positioning doesn't matter for shit because nothings a threat to you, but there's no reason for them not to ignore you. At least in wow you could taunt the target, forcing it to attack you as you were bored. It would completely remove skill expression in tanks, while making them able to do their job absurdly well.

Thus would need an extreme cost.

Edit: true damage champs would also abuse it. I'll build that shit on velkoz and darius and laugh as I 1v5.

Pyrosan2 votes

I'd build this every single game on Darius lol 5 stack passive would negate any debuff from defender and I get to survive 50% longer? sweet

The thigh guy1 votes

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I'd build this every single game on Darius lol 5 stack passive would negate any debuff from defender and I get to survive 50% longer? sweet

It’s a % damage reduction. The more damage you build the more it is going to effect you.

Pyrosan1 votes

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It’s a % damage reduction. The more damage you build the more it is going to effect you.

Darius can one shot squishies even with a damage reduction lol Through exhaust if you've got your 5 stacks up, they're just dead from an auto and an R

CrazyMonkeyCZ1 votes

If Zed(any champ that does over 100% of targets hp) builds it?

It also sounds like mustbuy for anyone who is snowballing, while they can already oneshot, let's also become unkillable.

Vesarixx1 votes

Riot has said in the past that they wouldn't put health, armor and MR all on the same item, makes it a must buy in any situation so it kills build diversity.

The passive on this is also a far better version of the active already on item 3193 , so it would absolutely get abused by bruisers and fighters if it was in the game.

Darkdemon6531 votes

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https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Gargoyle_Stoneplate

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