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So Kled was played once so far at Worlds. I think he needs buffed.

WinBoat··2 votes·528 views

Hello, I love Kled.

I think he could be buffed a bit.

His damage is good and all, that doesn't need to be changed, but I'm hoping Riot can see how weak he is dismounted, and it involves building courage back up to bring back Skaarl. In competitive play, this is so dangerous when the jungler works with their top laner to bring down Kled, and when he is dismounted, he gots no fighting tools besides his W, and a Q, and his movement speed is terribly slow unless he runs towards enemy champions.

Anyhow, Riot, can you guys actually have him gain courage a lot faster? He literally has to clear around 3 minion waves last hitting to get Skaarl back. Most of the time, everyone just recalls cause it's useless. You can't just straight up fight 1v1 when dismounted.

Also while we are at it, enable him for jungling and make him gain courage in the jungle. Hitting monsters and minions and stuff should gain the same amount of courage as hitting an enemy champion, or attacking a turret.

Thank you.

9 Comments

Hyperiön4 votes

That's what makes his kit unique, you need to play around his abilities/passive. You cant just walk in and be like, oh yeah, time to kill everything.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

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III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Kled is still somewhat new still, let the pros have some time before you start to think he needs to be buffed.
Kled mounted can 1v1 just about anyone and it takes some courage from the opponents to face him mounted, vice versa for Kled when he doesn't have a 4K HP bar 20 mins in the game.

l Helios l1 votes

It's not courage regeneration that's his issue. He gets it all back in 1 W usage (1 regular auto to trigger, then the 4 enhanced autos). Problem is his survivability while dismounted. If he can't get enough autos off or he can't stay in the fight, he's basically dead when dismounted. That was kind of his issue while Wunder was on him.

To be fair though, Wunder did fine on Kled; that is to say, I don't think Kled was responsible for their loss or a bad pick. I think they were just outmatched in team fights that they didn't start. In the fights where Wunder did ult to engage, they won quite handily, which I think happened twice.

If Kled ever starts losing a fight and he gets dismounted, I don't believe he has a chance of winning a fight if the enemy pressures him.

WinBoat1 votes

Well, not much they can change about his survivability when dismounted. I mean, they could give him a new ability for his E. Maybe something like Fizz's Q where he dashes and spears an enemy. Maybe they can give his dismounted Q a burn effect if he can land his small ranged cone Q on an enemy.

My main issue is gaining courage is slow unless you hit the enemy champion, then of course he can get it back faster, but more often than not, 100% of the time, you will not be trying to proc your W on your enemy when dismounted, especially if you aren't near your turret because Kled is so weak when dismounted.

He really needs to gain more courage by killing minions. I would love for them to enable him to jungle by giving him the same amount of courage he gets from hitting turrets but while in the jungle... Then again, his main role would be jungler if they enabled him for it cause he has an amazing kit that works.

However, I can understand why they might worry about increasing the courage gained cause by late game after he gets like a 3 item spike, or so, he becomes so scary, like overpowered scary, and he will start picking up lots of kills.

l Helios l1 votes

Big reason why they didn't do the jungle courage generation was because they didn't want the top laner to chunk the Kled and dismount just so he can go to gromp/krugs, take them, get gold, and get Skaarl back. It would make Kled essentially unkillable.

RexSaur1 votes

His passive needs to be nerfed, there is no reason for him to have untargetability frames.

BioticBrony1 votes

Yes there because when dismounting he cannot do anything. So this helps him survive that short time.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

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His damage is good and all, that doesn't need to be changed, but I'm hoping Riot can see how weak he is dismounted,

Well look there, it's the whole point of Kleds design.

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