Champion Diversity At Worlds Isn't Bad

WinBoat··47 votes·2,402 views

Despite what most people think, the diversity is actually not bad this year. I have seen threads with lots of thumbs up from sheep, I'd like to call them. Some threads saying there has never been diversity at worlds, or threads like "another year at worlds, no diversity".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but last year at worlds there was over 70+ unique champions played out of the 130+ champions in the game. That's actually a big number, in fact, a little way too big.

This year isn't too bad, and keep in mind, this is still the group stage and early on. You can't expect 100+ unique champions to be played the first week at worlds and stuff. People were already criticizing the diversity the first day....Really people?

I'm sure there will be a gangplank pick thrown in, aurelion sol, azir possibly, maybe even more. Even then, so far, the worlds diversity isn't as bad as people think.

Am I the only one? Also, the worlds seems more enjoyable, and it seems like most teams have a good solid chance to win (unless your splyce) but that's beside the point.

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Kledy McKledFace15 votes

idk we rarely saw rumble before worlds same for syndra now theyre both 100% pick/ban

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

because they got buffed and the meta picks before got nerfed

wiggywonka1 votes

uh when did they get buffs?

Enloct4 votes

Syndra got buffed in 6.12 and sort of again in 6.13.

Aeszarck2 votes

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Syndra got buffed in 6.12 and sort of again in 6.13.

Yep. Those four bug fixes were quite beneficial in 6.13.

Aeszarck5 votes

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uh when did they get buffs?

Enloct gave you the latest Syndra buffs after her rework.

Rumble's changes since preseason:

6.11: Rumble’s Q - Flamespitter now turns to face his target on basic attack command, rather than basic attack execution (think Corki’s E - Gatling Gun) 6.8: Rumble's Q - Flamespitter damage to minions increased to 100% (up from 50%), Rumble's R - The Equalizer cooldown decreased by 10 seconds at all ranks 6.5: If Rumble Overheats by casting E - Electro Harpoon, casting a second charge while Overheated no longer causes heat to continue rapidly draining after Overheated ends 6.4: Rumble's E - Electro Harpoon works on an ammo system instead of requiring the user to fire the second shot or lose it 6.2: Fixed a bug where Rumble's Q - Flamespitter sometimes missed a tick of damage when used while in Danger Zone 6.1: Collision radius reduced to 35 (down from 50), Rumble's Q - Flamespitter range increased to 600 (up from 550) and damage ticks rate reduced to 0.25 seconds (down from 0.5 seconds)

Jbels5 votes

The variety upon start isn't bad, no. But the continued variety of champs has not changed very much. Elise was picked almost every game, and if she wasn;t, it was Lee Sin or Olaf (or Rek'sai if someone actually let her through) Rumble, Kennen and Gnar and Jayce seem to be the staple top laners. Syndra and Cassiopea are the only mages I've seen besides one awful Ryze performance, and one spectacular Ryze performance. Karma, Braum, Nami, Alistar and Bard are the staple supports (Which, let's be honest, is actually a decent pool to work with) ADC has been Jhin, Ezreal and Jinx. It wasn't bad to start with, but after 3 days? I really want to see some new strategy, and I hope they're holding onto wild shit for the knockout stage

Matezoide3 votes

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100+ unique champions to be played the first week at worlds and stuff. People were already criticizing the diversity the first day....Really people?

Dota 2.

dEAdbUs1 votes

Why balance game if ppl watching it anyway?

MadKing0073 votes

I agree except Junglers They are always the same Elise Nidalee LeeSin

ABlueQuaker2 votes

Skarner RekSai Nocturne

ABlueQuaker2 votes

Olaf Vi Rengar are all perfectly viable at this level of play as well.

jinxedchef1 votes

We have seen Olaf vs immobile carries.(twice?) Has Vi been picked? I can't see a linear champ like Rengar working out that well.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Rengar provides good early pressure and works well with Orianna. Ball on Stealthed Rengar is a pretty foolproof combo.

Olaf is being played by SKT as we speak.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Zac has been banned a fair bit, too.

DarkSoul19942 votes

DUDE. I remember fucking Vi + Ori wombo back in like Season 4. Works with Noct and Rengar as well. But yeah, rengar got plrenty of play during the regular split, and vi is pretty god tier at the moment.

There's some pretty solid Juggernaut builds atm that work well on most of these meta junglers atm.

jinxedchef1 votes

How many times has Noc and Skarner been picked thou? A total of 3(or 4) times? And then only because 2-3 of the others were banned.

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

I haven't seen every game, but from what I have seen has always been these champions:

Top lane has mainly been Rumble Gnar Trundle Poppy Kennen

If they aren't picked, they're banned. Kind of a boring top lane.

Mid lane seems to be mainly picked/banned Syndra Cassiopeia Vladimir Orianna AurelionSol

Supports have been Nami Alistar TahmKench Karma

Not really sure about ADCs, but I've seen Jhin Ezreal Sivir

dEAdbUs1 votes

Ori was just couple times. Sol mb three times.

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

Ah, these are just the games I saw. My bad then.

Aldapsayar1 votes

Plus jungle Elise in every game LeeSin almost in every game Olaf and Graves in half of games Honorable mensionsNidalee Nocturne Skarner (Thanks to players who chose them instead of that four)

jinxedchef3 votes

Is there a list of played champs so far? I must be missing something but I only remember 3 or 4 for each role, with most of the picks being just 2 or 3 of the same ones.

jinxedchef1 votes

Thanks. That is pretty much how I thought things were. Mostly only 3-4 per role and then a very few other picks mostly b/c bans.

Emojay2 votes

I especially liked when Faker hacked the game to be one-for-all, and both teams picked Urgot and won.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

I don't watch Worlds because I don't have a sub-three digit IQ.

it be lìke that4 votes

That sentence was about as grammatically correct as, "blargh wf44grgqegrggr jjjjjjjj qqrru lmnopqrtzuvz."

So, I am going to assume that you in fact, do.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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That sentence was about as grammatically correct as, "blargh wf44grgqegrggr jjjjjjjj qqrru lmnopqrtzuvz."

So, I am going to assume that you in fact, do.

It was grammatically correct, though even if it wasn't a lapse in grammar isn't nearly as damning to one's intelligence as being stupid enough to care about the LCS.

wiggywonka6 votes

more people watched the world championship then the world series or the nba finals. Im pretty sure most of them dont have less then 100 iq

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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more people watched the world championship then the world series or the nba finals. Im pretty sure most of them dont have less then 100 iq

Watching any of those is indicative of low intelligence.

AramsAreBest1 votes

Where'd you find that data

wiggywonka1 votes

google

Keti1 votes

The edgelord

Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

I'm just loving how everyone is throwing a fit about Gnar since he's been getting picked in worlds. I mean, hardly anyone was complaining about him BEFORE worlds and he even got nerfed pre-worlds. But cause the pros (A.K.A. the guys who practice with these champs all the time and know them like the back of their hands) are using him, suddenly everyone starts demanding more nerfs.

WinBoat2 votes

Yeah, I hate how that happens. Just like Syndra too. Who played Syndra before worlds? No one besides the pros practicing the pick. Now people will cry she's OP. Kled was picked once and lost, and it has scared some of the pros from picking him, but imagine if Kled had one and did well? You'd see him picked again and again, and everyone would be crying about Kled.

Gnar isn't a problem, it's more so the item he uses Frozen Mallet that is the problem. You take that away, and he's less annoying, less powerful, and his kill potential is lowered.

ModCaptainMårvelous2 votes

It's worth noting that about 90% of the hero pool in DOTA2 was picked on Day 2 or so of TI6.

That said, if players want actual diversity, stop being fools and bringing win rates into arguments. Let Riot balance around pros if you want actual diversity.

9L9L9L9L9L9L9L1 votes

Been seeing lots of Jayce lately at Worlds

Slythion1 votes

Other than Sol (isn't he disabled?) ya, you're 100% right

WinBoat2 votes

Aurelion Sol should be enabled today, it was only temporarily. So yeah, he might be played, but as for bugs and stuff with him, who knows, they could disable him for the rest of worlds, but he should be enabled again.

I won't be surprised to see a Veigar too.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Was't Aurelion Sol disabled? Or did they manage to hotfix that bug that happened in the TSM vs RNG match?

TurquoiseYoshi3 votes

He is re-enabled for today. They found a fix, explanation in the Dev Corner.

Yxgl222HaX1 votes

unless youre any eu team you mean

General Esdeath 1 votes

Some of them think that because the person is picked 1 time (or less than 5) they don't count as diversity. I remember one of the LCS matches I saw last year had the same champs in 3 games in a row.

Spoofghoul1 votes

except it is,

last year we probably had the largest pool of viable champions, at least for the majority of the season pro play was fun to watch, things didn't snowball out of control super fast there where more comebacks and more strategy. Although end of the year with juggernauts and GP things got a bit fucked up, though it was still more fun to watch then the same old bullshit as always.

Those 70 unique picks don't really mean a lot when out of those 70, 20 get picked 90% of the time and the rest is the one time cheese stuff, or somebody got their entire giant ass champion pool banned. . .

Vegas Dad1 votes

I hate when people pretend its diversity when people on that rare occasion have to pick something new because the only 3 options for each role Happened to get banned out one game... That's not diversity that is having no choice because the three main picks are banned out and licked by the enemy.

jaymc11301 votes

Its highly unlikely we will be seeing any GP unless kennen gets banned. For the most part the majority of the champion pool is locked for similar reasons. They aren't competitively viable as long as certain other picks that are either stronger outright, or strong against the less prioritized champs. The picks we've seen so far, the 30 or so champs being actively contested are liable to be the only ones that see real play at worlds.

AurelionSol Ashe Alistar Anivia Bard Brand Braum Caitlyn Cassiopeia Ekko Elise Evelynn Ezreal Gangplank Gnar Gragas Graves Hecarim Irelia Jayce Jhin Karma Kennen Kled Leblanc LeeSin Lissandra Lucian Lulu Malzahar Maokai Nami Nidalee Nocturne Olaf Orianna Poppy RekSai Rumble Ryze Shen Skarner Jax Syndra TahmKench Taliyah Tristana Taric Trundle Varus Viktor Vladimir Yasuo Zilean Sivir

I would honestly be surprised if we see any champion played this year that isn't listed in this list.

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