Graves is way too strong

Unlucky47·Sep 13, 2016·5 votes·844 views

As an adc it's fine because he can only focus one person and he still has to worry about supports and all. But as a top laner? Rivens free to play currently and I wanted to try her out but I couldnt because not only did he zone me out from all the farm, but he waited till level 6 to kill me under tower because his q and 2 autos and his ult do enough damage to do that. Not only does he have the strongest early game of any top laner, but his late game is ridiculously broken. It'd be one thing if he had a strong early game but fell off late game or vice versa, but to have both of them? how is this not regarded as a problem? The syndra told me to just stand behind minions, but getting hit by the tip of his q guarantees half my health and his wave clear is so broken that you can't even trade with the guy much less hide behind the minion wave that gets cleared with 2 autos.

9 Comments

Veigarisgod1Sep 13, 20163 votes

He's really not. He's actually pretty balanced right now (yeah i said it. Your downvotes only give me more power)

McFatalSep 13, 20162 votes

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He's really not. He's actually pretty balanced right now (yeah i said it. Your downvotes only give me more power)

hes actually super fucking strong. hes not balanced.just borderline between broken as all hell and manageable. try playing vs a graves jungle main in diamond then come to me with your bright opinion.

Veigarisgod1Sep 13, 20161 votes

try playing vs a graves jungle main in diamond then come to me with your bright opinion.

That's an atrocious argument. You just justified the gutting of azir, rek sai, and shen. Congrats.

hes actually super fucking strong. hes not balanced

he's pretty balanced. The statistics don't lie.

McFatalSep 13, 20161 votes

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That's an atrocious argument. You just justified the gutting of azir, rek sai, and shen. Congrats.

he's pretty balanced. The statistics don't lie.

reksai is still stupidly strong when built tanky. shen is in an ok spot.

i havent played vs azir in a while but i knwo hes still an annoying enemy laner.

the statistics proves hes super strong right now.

ViiLLAiNSep 14, 20161 votes

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He's really not. He's actually pretty balanced right now (yeah i said it. Your downvotes only give me more power)

lol downvoted just to give power

Veigarisgod1Sep 14, 20161 votes

thank you.

Ruin LanceSep 13, 20163 votes

graves is strong but you exaggerate his power way too much. and also riven is REALLY bad unless you know what you're doing so that's also a huge factor in this.

Unlucky47Sep 14, 20161 votes

I understand that i probably exaggerated a little and riven is bad, but it seems like every game i get in the enemy graves stomps on us because of how powerful he is and he always snowballs too hard. It's not like i wrote this after one instance, it happens every time there's a graves

I Ward A LotSep 14, 20161 votes

I didn't read the description and I don't need to. The problem with graves and honestly this is a problem with a lot of champs is that when you get a kill or 2 then the snowball factor associated with him is honestly ridiculous. He's one of those give him 3 kills and just sit back and watch him 1v5. Other than that he is pretty balanced.